Poll: How long is the CV/resume you use when applying for a job? Auteur du fil: ProZ.com Staff
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This forum topic is for the discussion of the poll question "How long is the CV/resume you use when applying for a job?".
This poll was originally submitted by ATIL KAYHAN. View the poll results »
| | | | Simon Bruni 
Royaume-Uni
Local time: 19:54
Membre (2009)
espagnol vers anglais
| I don't apply for jobs | Sep 28, 2010 |
I offer a service. I send a CV of sorts, 1 page. I'm told recruiters are often irritated by long CVs.
| | | | | selling a service, not a price | Sep 28, 2010 |
I have a general presentation on 2 pages which I tried to present as clearly as possible
(language pairs, specialisations, rates, general experience and diploma's, positive opinions of clients
I avoid mentioning my rates in first position because I sell a service, not a price per word
Depending on the job, I elaborate on certain points.
Recently I also decided to add my terms of conditions to my CV.
It seems to me more professiona... See more I have a general presentation on 2 pages which I tried to present as clearly as possible
(language pairs, specialisations, rates, general experience and diploma's, positive opinions of clients
I avoid mentioning my rates in first position because I sell a service, not a price per word
Depending on the job, I elaborate on certain points.
Recently I also decided to add my terms of conditions to my CV.
It seems to me more professional, less CV like.
Simon has definitely a point! ▲ Collapse
| | | | Interlangue (X)
Angola
Local time: 20:54
anglais vers français
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... unless I am asked to send one, usually to respond to a call for tender, now as part of a team.
Sometimes also after "a while" (can be several years), for administrative reasons - to avoid corruption, collusion and nepotism - or to comply with standards (ISO, etc.)
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Theo Bernards (X)
France
Local time: 20:54
anglais vers néerlandais
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| Only when asked, reluctantly though. | Sep 28, 2010 |
I don't apply for jobs, I offer my services for projects and in offering my services I present a very short informative leaflet and I refer to my website. For the majority of my customers that is sufficient.
Usually only translation agencies ask for my CV but, then again, it is usually translation agencies that set the fee prior to announcing the project (at least, I never had any other client do that, they always ask me what translations cost), that tell you which software to use (... See more I don't apply for jobs, I offer my services for projects and in offering my services I present a very short informative leaflet and I refer to my website. For the majority of my customers that is sufficient.
Usually only translation agencies ask for my CV but, then again, it is usually translation agencies that set the fee prior to announcing the project (at least, I never had any other client do that, they always ask me what translations cost), that tell you which software to use (I don't tell a plumber to use a certain tool brand only when he repairs my toilet, I just ask him to fix it), that tell you how many days you have to wait for your payment (if I tell the same plumber that his invoice will be paid after 90 days via PayPal only, he will probably unrepair the leak he just fixed), but I am straying off topic . ▲ Collapse
| | | | Muriel Vasconcellos (X)
États-Unis
Local time: 11:54
espagnol vers anglais
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For a ProZ posting, I send a one-page version. I also have an intermediate version if more information is requested or it appears that a long-term relationship is in the offing. Then there's a really long version for academic purposes such as applying for grants., where length is the name of the game.
Some clients really expect a lot of information - as evidenced by the humongous on-line forms that they ask us to fill out.
I also have a set a short blurbs that vary in e... See more For a ProZ posting, I send a one-page version. I also have an intermediate version if more information is requested or it appears that a long-term relationship is in the offing. Then there's a really long version for academic purposes such as applying for grants., where length is the name of the game.
Some clients really expect a lot of information - as evidenced by the humongous on-line forms that they ask us to fill out.
I also have a set a short blurbs that vary in emphasis. ▲ Collapse
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Theo Bernards wrote:
I don't apply for jobs, I offer my services for projects and in offering my services I present a very short informative leaflet and I refer to my website. For the majority of my customers that is sufficient.
Usually only translation agencies ask for my CV but, then again, it is usually translation agencies that set the fee prior to announcing the project (at least, I never had any other client do that, they always ask me what translations cost), that tell you which software to use (I don't tell a plumber to use a certain tool brand only when he repairs my toilet, I just ask him to fix it), that tell you how many days you have to wait for your payment (if I tell the same plumber that his invoice will be paid after 90 days via PayPal only, he will probably unrepair the leak he just fixed), but I am straying off topic .
| | | | | 9 pages - a 45 kb PDF | Sep 28, 2010 |
My web site gives a pretty accurate description of what I can do and how. Anyone who suspects that might be just pep talk, and wants to see most of what I've done so far to back my assertions, will request my CV. So let them have it!
However I never send it unless specifically requested.
It is a PDF file stored in a secluded area of my web site, no internal links to it.
It had 16 pages before, but I chose to prune some details that became irrelevant over ti... See more My web site gives a pretty accurate description of what I can do and how. Anyone who suspects that might be just pep talk, and wants to see most of what I've done so far to back my assertions, will request my CV. So let them have it!
However I never send it unless specifically requested.
It is a PDF file stored in a secluded area of my web site, no internal links to it.
It had 16 pages before, but I chose to prune some details that became irrelevant over time.
[Edited at 2010-09-28 11:58 GMT] ▲ Collapse
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Alison Sabedoria (X)
Royaume-Uni
français vers anglais
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| One A4 page, and I don't apply for jobs! | Sep 28, 2010 |
Like Simon, I'm offering a service, not seeking employment. Who I am and what I can do (as shown on my website) says far more than my CV, and the people I work with understand this.
Even when applying for jobs or major projects in the past, I generally kept to a single A4 page, believing that this is both good practice and good manners. But like Muriel, I have also applied for university research funding more than once...  ... See more Like Simon, I'm offering a service, not seeking employment. Who I am and what I can do (as shown on my website) says far more than my CV, and the people I work with understand this.
Even when applying for jobs or major projects in the past, I generally kept to a single A4 page, believing that this is both good practice and good manners. But like Muriel, I have also applied for university research funding more than once... 
On the rare occasions when I send a CV, I only play up the most relevant aspects each time (it's like a chameleon) and the limit of one page helps to clarify my own thinking about what's important. It's rarely necessary to give "chapter and verse" details on everything I've done since school in over 30 years of a varied career. A brief outline that can be taken in at a glance is much kinder to whoever is on the receiving end.
I've learned over the years to understate, thus provoking curiosity. Anyone who really wants to know the details will ask. This has often proved a good starting point for discussion. 
Alison
[Edited at 2010-09-28 13:24 GMT] ▲ Collapse
| | | | David Wright
Autriche
Local time: 20:54
allemand vers anglais
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I don't apply for jobs, nor do I "offer" a service - All my jobs come because a client has recommended me to someone else. They rareky ask for a cv and if they do I just send a brief summary of my qualifications and experience. The odd inquiry I have submitted a cv to has never actually led to anything.
| | | | Amy Duncan (X)
Brésil
Local time: 16:54
portugais vers anglais
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If someone requests a CV I send my one-page CV. I really don't think most people bother to read more than one page.
| | | | | Right on Theo! | Sep 28, 2010 |
Exactly. We give services. Incidentally I hate "rates" because I feel it is insulting. We do not sell commodities and we are not taxicabs! We are professionals and charge fees!
All my jobs arrive by recommendation. I ask who recommended me and get back to the colleague/client who did, to make sure I will not undercharge that colleague's fees. Suspicious, that's me.
I always ask to see the texts to be translated, to mix metaphors, pigs in a poke are not my cup of tea. If the client ... See more Exactly. We give services. Incidentally I hate "rates" because I feel it is insulting. We do not sell commodities and we are not taxicabs! We are professionals and charge fees!
All my jobs arrive by recommendation. I ask who recommended me and get back to the colleague/client who did, to make sure I will not undercharge that colleague's fees. Suspicious, that's me.
I always ask to see the texts to be translated, to mix metaphors, pigs in a poke are not my cup of tea. If the client wants my CV, he/she should visit my web page. That's what it is for. I had a 14 page academic record showing all the projects, papers, seminars that I have written or attended to, for clients asking for translation/revision of papers or offering teamwork on projects. My short academic record now has 4 pages and that's enough for anyone. My "regular" CV has two pages, mostly because it is in Arial .14, no one will squint a .09 or .10. ▲ Collapse
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