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BTW, if you'll keep moving back and forth, maybe you should opt for a "dual sim smartphone".
Not really. Dual sims are a designed for those who want to switch between sims several times every day. Not worth bothering with for a situation like this.
If you come and go between the two countries once a month, just get a handset that works on both networks (bands) and works with both providers you'll be using. That means either getting a non carrier-restricted handset or using the same carrier in both countries, say, Vodafone Italy and Vodafone Australia etc.
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| Which features do you need? | Sep 27, 2009 |
In Italy you can have a SIM card of every carrier for about 5 euros, and charge it with money if and when you need it with no other obligations at all. Anyway, it is more convenient to subscribe a monthly fee, like 30-50-90 euros for, say, 20-40-80 hours/month voice calls AND a certain amount of data transfer.
I think that you should choose your new mobile on the basis of what it should do: voice calls (storage of names and numbers, different rings); sms (system for writing/completi... See more In Italy you can have a SIM card of every carrier for about 5 euros, and charge it with money if and when you need it with no other obligations at all. Anyway, it is more convenient to subscribe a monthly fee, like 30-50-90 euros for, say, 20-40-80 hours/month voice calls AND a certain amount of data transfer.
I think that you should choose your new mobile on the basis of what it should do: voice calls (storage of names and numbers, different rings); sms (system for writing/completing words, space for messages sent and received); dual sim (to have a different number for friends/lovers and another for business), msm (integrated camera), mail (support for many email addresses, font size); internet browsing (big display, smart browser); games (queing at the mail office or during a train journey); audio (mp3 player); road maps (GPS and digital compass); modem (to connect your notebook to internet); wifi (to connect via a wireless net); etc.
With my old 2G Iphone I can do most of these things and read & make little corrections in Word documents too (with the app "QuickOffice"), so most of the time I can leave the notebook at home, instead of carrying it with me.
[Sorry for my English], ciao,
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| Nokia E63 if your budget is tight | Sep 27, 2009 |
Hi Mara,
I had recently posted a similar question on this forum, and following the helpful replies that I got and after seeing the available products in Turkey, I bought a Nokia E63.
In summary, I am very satisfied with it. It has all the features that I wanted (integrated Wifi, 3G, email, WWW, opening and editing simple word/excel documents, a PDF viewer, a nice keyboard, mp3 player...). You can install freeware applications from the internet that extend the phone's fu... See more Hi Mara,
I had recently posted a similar question on this forum, and following the helpful replies that I got and after seeing the available products in Turkey, I bought a Nokia E63.
In summary, I am very satisfied with it. It has all the features that I wanted (integrated Wifi, 3G, email, WWW, opening and editing simple word/excel documents, a PDF viewer, a nice keyboard, mp3 player...). You can install freeware applications from the internet that extend the phone's functionalities ; for instance, I have a very nice program that enables me to phone via Skype, which means that I can call landlines in Europe for free with my skype subscription when I happen to be in a Wifi-enabled location.
I paid 200€ for it, which is significantly less than an iphone. The main drawbacks that I could complain about are :
-small screen, not very comfortable for web browsing (I wouldn't want the keyboard to be smaller nor the phone to be bigger, though)
-native applications don't run very fast (install Opera mini and compare it with the native web browser, and you will see the difference)
-no decent file manager included, you have to install one yourself if you want to be able to explore all the phone's contents.
I guess that you will find the same features from Nokia's competitors at a similar price, but be warned that if the phone that you buy is riddled with Windows mobile, you may not have a very pleasant experience. Nokia's phones use Symbian, which would be a bit limited for a real computer but does its job fine on a smartphone.
Good luck with your search,
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First of all, thank you for all the last few posts too!
Michael, why do you think the experience with Windows mobile wouldn't be very nice? Do you know anything in particular?
Does anyone know anything about Android or any phones that use that system?
Cheers,
Mara
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| Operating system of the smartphone | Sep 30, 2009 |
Michael Mestre wrote:
I guess that you will find the same features from Nokia's competitors at a similar price, but be warned that if the phone that you buy is riddled with Windows mobile, you may not have a very pleasant experience. Nokia's phones use Symbian, which would be a bit limited for a real computer but does its job fine on a smartphone.
I think the OS of the smartphone should match the OS of your computer : If you have a Windows XP or Vista system, a smartphone with Windows Mobile will provide the best compatibility, that is, an easy synchronization and sharing of the internet connection.
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| Hope this helps. | Sep 30, 2009 |
Hello Mara,
1. Of course, what's the best choice for a reasonable price?
As several others have also experienced and suggested, I have used several HTC devices (over a few generations of Windows Mobile OS) and were very happy with all of them. They are reliable and built solid. Nokia also make very good devices, and I see why they are still the world's top seller for smart phones.
2. What's the difference between the different technologies (GPRS-... See more Hello Mara,
1. Of course, what's the best choice for a reasonable price?
As several others have also experienced and suggested, I have used several HTC devices (over a few generations of Windows Mobile OS) and were very happy with all of them. They are reliable and built solid. Nokia also make very good devices, and I see why they are still the world's top seller for smart phones.
2. What's the difference between the different technologies (GPRS-EDGE-GSM-HSCSD-UMTS, etc.) and which one should I be looking for?
You should find that most newer smart phones today will be UMTS capable, which will mean that you can roam between GSM and 3G voice network, as well as GPRS, EDGE and 3G data network. Almost all phones for GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS should work fine in Australia. I do not recommend using international roaming, as this can get very very expensive, very quickly. You would be better off subscribing to a local cell phone service or use a pre-paid service.
3. Do all phones that have an integrated GPS work as a normal navigator or am I thinking of a different function here (sorry again if it's a silly question)?
Satellite should pick up, even in Australia, but if you want to use it as a navigation device when driving a vehicle, you will need an navigation map for Australia. If using Google map, Windows Live or some other online maps, you are fine. However, I am not aware of any of the online maps working for navigation with voice prompt capability. This should not be much of an issue, if you will only use it to navigate you when walking around a city.
4. Any better brands? I know Blackberry and Nokia are pretty good, but what about Samsung or Sony Ericsson or LG for a Smartphone? And HTC? Are they all well established everywhere in the world?
Again, HTC and Nokia make great phones that are both reliable and capable. My experiences with BlackBerry devices have also been great. In any case, if you plan on texting or doing decent amount of typing, I would strongly suggest picking a device with a physical keyboard, rather than a software keyboard. You can type much faster and with much less mistakes with a physical keyboard.
Most HTC devices run Windows Mobile OS, which have huge number of applications available. Most Nokia devices run Symbian OS with less applications. Even after using an iPhone for a year, I still think the Windows Mobile OS devices can provide much more functionality, simply for the number of apps available for them. You can do so much with these devices.
5. (and most importantly) If I've understood correctly, once you buy a Smartphone/Blackberry, whatever, you need to set it up with a local (ie national) provider.
This is correct. You will need to set it up for the local provider's settings to use all functionality, especially data access. Unless you are pretty tech-savvy, I would suggest you to buy a phone locally in Australia. If you absolutely need to have the phone, prior to leaving Italy, check out eBay Australia.
6. and last (I think and hope) If I was to choose a Blackberry, which one would you suggest between Curve8900 and Bold9000? What's are the main differences?
For ease of typing, I would suggest the Curve 8900 over the Bold. I tried the Bold, and also use the iPhone, but they are just pain to type with. iPhone is a fun device to play with, but can be frastrating to use for work.
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| Poor man’s Blackberry | Sep 30, 2009 |
Currently I am using a Samsung Windows Mobile phone with a QWERTY keyboard. It’s so handy for typing that I can no longer use normal mobile phone keyboard to send messages. For emails on the go on WM, you can set MSN Live email receiving schedule to “as items arrive” and it becomes a “berry” of some sort. The only problem I have noticed is that from time to time email push is not as instantaneous as with Blackberry. So if push email is what you want and time is critical, then Blackberr... See more Currently I am using a Samsung Windows Mobile phone with a QWERTY keyboard. It’s so handy for typing that I can no longer use normal mobile phone keyboard to send messages. For emails on the go on WM, you can set MSN Live email receiving schedule to “as items arrive” and it becomes a “berry” of some sort. The only problem I have noticed is that from time to time email push is not as instantaneous as with Blackberry. So if push email is what you want and time is critical, then Blackberry is still the best.
I find costs to run a Blackberry in Australia is quite high. You either have to sign a 24 month contract or pay extra to have the email service on top of your mobile voice service.
There are so many brands but if you look deep enough you will find all these phones are made by the same group of 3-4 OEMs.
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thank you, Eric, brightman and words@large, for the last extremely valuable info too, and for taking the time to answer all of my questions, Brightman! It seems you've used quite a lot of smartphones...and here I am taking days to choose my first one...
When you said: "This is correct. You will need to set it up for the local provider's settings to use all functionality, especially data access. Unless you are pretty tech-savvy, I would... See more thank you, Eric, brightman and words@large, for the last extremely valuable info too, and for taking the time to answer all of my questions, Brightman! It seems you've used quite a lot of smartphones...and here I am taking days to choose my first one...
When you said: "This is correct. You will need to set it up for the local provider's settings to use all functionality, especially data access. Unless you are pretty tech-savvy, I would suggest you to buy a phone locally in Australia. If you absolutely need to have the phone, prior to leaving Italy, check out eBay Australia.", do you think that if I'm not tech-savvy (and I'm not), I won't be able to use my Italian smartphone there in Australia? Or will a local provider be able to help me set it up with them. I do need it here for a few months and will need it there then...with the time I'm taking to choose one, I'm not really planning of buying more, once this is done...
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| decisions, decisions... | Sep 30, 2009 |
Mara,
"... I won't be able to use my Italian smartphone there in Australia? Or will a local provider be able to help me set it up with them."
First of all, I wasn't assuming you were not tech-savvy...
If you buy one in Italy that's GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS compatible, it should roam automatically in Australia. Most carriers now have roaming agreements with other country's carriers. Instead of roa... See more Mara,
"... I won't be able to use my Italian smartphone there in Australia? Or will a local provider be able to help me set it up with them."
First of all, I wasn't assuming you were not tech-savvy...
If you buy one in Italy that's GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS compatible, it should roam automatically in Australia. Most carriers now have roaming agreements with other country's carriers. Instead of roaming with your Italian carrier's SIM card, you would want to switch to Australian SIM card to avoid roaming charges there.
To avoid the expensive roaming charges, you'll need to do a few things.
1.) unlock the phone to use a SIM card issued by other carriers
2.) purchase a pre-paid or post-paid service with an Australian carrier to obtain their SIM card
3.) change the phone's internet access setting to use Australian carrier's network
Only problem with this is that, many carriers do not make the settings openly available to public. In many cases, the setup information for a particular carrier leaks to the internet and can be found online, if you search around.
Some carriers have open handset policies, so that you could take any phone that is unlocked to use any carrier's SIM card, and they would help you set it up for their network. Most phones, purchased from a carrier with a service plan are locked to their network, and doesn't allow uses of other carrier's SIM card, although you could also find information for how to unlock your particular phone in many cases.
"How to" instructions for many phones are available online, if you searched around, and I have found the HTC devices with Windows Mobile OS have more online resources to help you hack the phones to do what you need to do.
Here are some useful websites with many helpful tips for HTC Windows Mobile OS devices.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=257415
http://www.htcwiki.com/page/Tweaks%20and%20Hacks
I have learned that no other handset manufacturer has the kind of following that HTC has, where people develop so many hacks and tweaks. Nokia handsets, iPhones and BlackBerry are more difficult to hack, and they do not have near as much online resources either.
As we are beginning to use our phones in more ways than just talking devices, data and internet settings have made it more difficult to jump between carriers. However, with good research and proper care, you can hack many smartphones to do this.
I would add one more note that you should be prepared to spend more time researching the hacks and hacking the devices than to research and buy one more phone in Australia. If you like playing around with these gadgets, you are probably fine, but if not... you'd want to think about this twice. Although most hacks are reversible, you are always flirting with a possibility for damaging the device and voiding the manufacturer's warranty as well.
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Hello,
I am the happy owner of a Nokia 5800 smartphone.
Features:
-wifi
-touchscreen
-good calendar (with synchronization via Google calendar). Very practical.
-email (it is possible to read office and pdf files)
-internet browsing
-radio (iphone as far as I know does not have)
-mp3 and video player
-Skype (you just have to download the software for free)
Skype allows you to make free calls to Skype users if you are ... See more Hello,
I am the happy owner of a Nokia 5800 smartphone.
Features:
-wifi
-touchscreen
-good calendar (with synchronization via Google calendar). Very practical.
-email (it is possible to read office and pdf files)
-internet browsing
-radio (iphone as far as I know does not have)
-mp3 and video player
-Skype (you just have to download the software for free)
Skype allows you to make free calls to Skype users if you are in a wifi area.
-GPS
-much cheaper than Iphone
I hope this helps.
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xxxEric Hahn wrote:
I think the OS of the smartphone should match the OS of your computer : If you have a Windows XP or Vista system, a smartphone with Windows Mobile will provide the best compatibility, that is, an easy synchronization and sharing of the internet connection.
I am an IT pro and I totally disagree with this statement. It is not based on evidence. You can get perfect synchronization with Windows on other mobile phone platforms.
I would recommed Motorola Droid because it has physical keyboard, all the features you will ever need and the Android operating system is doing very well (tens of thousands of applications available).
| | | | | Agree - Android is the way to go | May 12, 2010 |
Milos Prudek wrote:
xxxEric Hahn wrote:
I think the OS of the smartphone should match the OS of your computer : If you have a Windows XP or Vista system, a smartphone with Windows Mobile will provide the best compatibility, that is, an easy synchronization and sharing of the internet connection.
I am an IT pro and I totally disagree with this statement. It is not based on evidence. You can get perfect synchronization with Windows on other mobile phone platforms.
I would recommed Motorola Droid because it has physical keyboard, all the features you will ever need and the Android operating system is doing very well (tens of thousands of applications available).
Do not buy WinMo 6.5 (present-day Windows Mobile). IMO Android is the best smartphone option right now, although you can't go wrong too badly with the iphone, a blackberry or a palm pre, either - depending on what you want it to do.
I wouldn't recommend the droid/milestone, though. The specs look great on paper but the keyboard is basically useless, so you're better off with a more powerful Nexus One or HTC Desire.
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