Glossary entry (derived from question below)
français term or phrase:
de première dotation
anglais translation:
for initial use
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français term
Royaume-Uni
Hands-on experience of commerce
Native in: anglais
Works in: allemand vers anglais, français vers anglais, anglais
de première dotation
français vers anglais
Droit / Brevets
Droit : contrat(s)
Government tender
In the introduction to a government tender for the purchase of goods:
"Cahier spécial des charges relatif à un achat en deux lots de XXX ( = the goods; sorry but I cannot specify these) et accessoires de première dotation":
Many thanks for your help:
"Cahier spécial des charges relatif à un achat en deux lots de XXX ( = the goods; sorry but I cannot specify these) et accessoires de première dotation":
Many thanks for your help:
Proposed translations
(anglais)
| 4 +2 | for initial use |
Daryo
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| 3 +1 | original equipment |
Alistair_
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| 3 | initial-issue |
Clive Phillips
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Proposed translations
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for initial use
"Cahier spécial des charges relatif à un achat en deux lots de XXX ( = the goods; sorry but I cannot specify these) et accessoires de première dotation"
=>
"... and sets of accessories for initial use"
de première dotation = what you need to start using the main thing
as in:
"INVITATION A INTRODUIRE UNE DEMANDE DE PARTICIPATION relative à un achat ponctuel en deux lots de fusils 7.62 mm semi-automatiques et accessoires et de fusils .338 LM à verrou et accessoires, ainsi que les munitions .338 LM de première dotation, couplés chacun à un marché pluriannuel à durée indéterminée à bordereau de prix relatif à l’acquisition de fournitures et de services "
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Note added at 40 mins (2012-10-12 17:09:43 GMT)
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also:
"Le télécopieur est fourni avec une cartouche gratuite de première dotation."
i.e. a free cartridge you get with the copy machine so you can start using it straight away;
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the same way you often get "the first set of batteries" with all sort of gadgets that need them (toys, portable radios, torches ...
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"... and sets of accessories for initial use"
de première dotation = what you need to start using the main thing
as in:
"INVITATION A INTRODUIRE UNE DEMANDE DE PARTICIPATION relative à un achat ponctuel en deux lots de fusils 7.62 mm semi-automatiques et accessoires et de fusils .338 LM à verrou et accessoires, ainsi que les munitions .338 LM de première dotation, couplés chacun à un marché pluriannuel à durée indéterminée à bordereau de prix relatif à l’acquisition de fournitures et de services "
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Note added at 40 mins (2012-10-12 17:09:43 GMT)
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also:
"Le télécopieur est fourni avec une cartouche gratuite de première dotation."
i.e. a free cartridge you get with the copy machine so you can start using it straight away;
[http://www.linguee.fr/francais-anglais/search?source=auto&qu...]
the same way you often get "the first set of batteries" with all sort of gadgets that need them (toys, portable radios, torches ...
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Many thanks"
+1
18 minutes
original equipment
meaning NOT aftermarket
it could be, even if I don't what kind of goods you are talking about
it could be, even if I don't what kind of goods you are talking about
Peer comment(s):
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Marco Solinas
: Just original: original accessories
3 minutes
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Yep, good call, I was probably incorrect saying equipment, thanks!
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| disagree |
Daryo
: this about supplies / accessories needed to start using some equipment, not the equipment itself, like batteries for torches, or bullets for guns.
25 minutes
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leave out equipment then, the original still stands, they're called 'primo impianto' in Italy which has the same meaning as premiere dotation, Marco is correct, original accessories
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Adrian MM. (X)
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2 heures
Clive Phillips
Royaume-Uni
Royaume-Uni
Native in anglais
Royaume-Uni
Defence/military specialist translator
Native in: anglais (Variant: British)
Works in: allemand vers anglais, français vers anglais, anglais
Related KudoZ points
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initial-issue
The accessories/ancillaries are issued on initial purchase of the goods. They may not be necessarily required for initial use of the goods.
Peer comment(s):
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Daryo
: maybe "initial-issue consumables/accessories supply"?; As for: “may not be necessarily required for initial use of the goods.": how your are going to use a torch without batteries, a printer without cartridges, or a new car without any fuel in it?
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Some initial-issue items may be for the purpose of, say, annual maintenance.
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Discussion
I did a small job for an Italian spare parts dealer a while ago, and I must say I was convinced "première dotation" was automotive jargon only but now I've seen it I think it probably applies to a lot of other goods too.
Anyhow, I was told to translate on their brochure 'primo impianto' as 'original' and I was given this example, "Ferrari doesn't manufacture brake discs so Ferraris come out originally with Brembo ceramic brake discs fitted, anything else than Brembo is aftermarket".
Now, it looks to me that saying Ferrari original brake discs might be misleading, as it could hint manufactured by Ferrari, which, apparently, they are not.. Is this the only difference between original and for initial use, originally manufactured and originally fitted? Have I got this right or can you read something else into this?