Glossary entry (derived from question below)
français term or phrase:
gaine pompiers
anglais translation:
smoke shaft
Added to glossary by
Steve Melling
Dec 1, 2010 19:16
14 yrs ago
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français term
France
12 years' experience
Native in: anglais
Works in: français vers anglais, italien vers anglais, espagnol vers anglais, and 1 more.
gaine pompiers
français vers anglais
Technique / Génie
Autre
Safety instructions- fact
I'm asking this question again in the light of info. provided by the customer.
Context: Factory site map key. Term used just the once.
La "Gaine Pompiers" permet aux Sapeurs Pompiers de raccorder les groupes ventilateurs, afin d’évacuer rapidement les fumées provoquées par un incendie.
Context: Factory site map key. Term used just the once.
La "Gaine Pompiers" permet aux Sapeurs Pompiers de raccorder les groupes ventilateurs, afin d’évacuer rapidement les fumées provoquées par un incendie.
Proposed translations
(anglais)
| 3 +1 | smoke shaft |
Bourth (X)
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| 4 +1 | fire fighting shaft |
Sarah Bessioud
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| 3 +1 | smoke extraction duct |
B D Finch
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References
| Fire Safety Building regs |
Travelin Ann
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Proposed translations
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smoke shaft
http://www.cosaf.co.uk/control-of-smoke-fire/smoke-ventilati...
http://www.bre.co.uk/filelibrary/pdf/rpts/partb/Smoke_Ventil...
The purpose of smoke venting (aka fire venting) is to remove smoke from a burning building. This increases the chances of survival for anyone inside the building and makes it easier for firefighters to both access people inside and see what they are doing in terms of combatting the fire.
Smoke venting basically uses natural ventilation relying on convection. Flaps on the duct open automatically in the event of fire. However under some conditions (wind, cold weather, etc.) natural venting may not be wholly effective, so mechanical venting may be used. This involves fans in the ducts. Better still is when, once firefighters arrive, they can override the automatic settings, turn some fans off, or reverse them to bring smoke down rather than send it up.
I don't know more in detail, but I imagine it is possible they may be able to connect portable fans to a smoke shaft to "mechanize" what is actually a natural vent or to suck smoke down the shaft if it is not fitted with reversible fans.
It may be necessary to specify "for use by firefighters" or "for manual override" or something to distinguish this particular type from the more general kind.
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Note added at 14 hrs (2010-12-02 10:08:12 GMT)
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On the basis of Barbara's Dicobat definition, "shaft" may not be appropriate, so go for "smoke extraction duct".
http://www.bre.co.uk/filelibrary/pdf/rpts/partb/Smoke_Ventil...
The purpose of smoke venting (aka fire venting) is to remove smoke from a burning building. This increases the chances of survival for anyone inside the building and makes it easier for firefighters to both access people inside and see what they are doing in terms of combatting the fire.
Smoke venting basically uses natural ventilation relying on convection. Flaps on the duct open automatically in the event of fire. However under some conditions (wind, cold weather, etc.) natural venting may not be wholly effective, so mechanical venting may be used. This involves fans in the ducts. Better still is when, once firefighters arrive, they can override the automatic settings, turn some fans off, or reverse them to bring smoke down rather than send it up.
I don't know more in detail, but I imagine it is possible they may be able to connect portable fans to a smoke shaft to "mechanize" what is actually a natural vent or to suck smoke down the shaft if it is not fitted with reversible fans.
It may be necessary to specify "for use by firefighters" or "for manual override" or something to distinguish this particular type from the more general kind.
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Note added at 14 hrs (2010-12-02 10:08:12 GMT)
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On the basis of Barbara's Dicobat definition, "shaft" may not be appropriate, so go for "smoke extraction duct".
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
cc in nyc
: See http://www.flickr.com/photos/colt-tollfab-victoria/sets/7215... for "smoke and fire shaft systems"
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B D Finch
: Not only my Dicobat definition, also see the images links that I posted, which make it clear that this is a "smoke extraction duct", not a "shaft".
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As I said above 4 days ago: "On the basis of Barbara's Dicobat definition, "shaft" may not be appropriate, so go for "smoke extraction duct"."
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Many thanks."
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Sarah Bessioud
Allemagne
Allemagne
Native in anglais
Allemagne
A way with words
Native in: anglais (Variants: US, British, UK) 
Works in: allemand vers anglais, français vers anglais, anglais
Related KudoZ points
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fire fighting shaft
See for example:
http://www.coltinfo.co.uk/products-and-systems/smoke-control...
http://www.coltinfo.co.uk/products-and-systems/smoke-control...
Peer comment(s):
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Travelin Ann
: or firefighting access shaft
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Thank you Ann
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B D Finch
: A gain-pompier is for smoke dispersal, not for access. In fact, if you look at the Colt shaft described in your reference, you will see that it is 0.6 m² in section.
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smoke extraction duct
I only give a medium confidence level because, according to Dicobat, a gaine-pompier is a special instance of a gaine de désenfumage, which is for boiler rooms or inflammable materials storage areas and which can have an outlet to the facade, rather than the roof, of the building.
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Note added at 14 hrs (2010-12-02 09:27:42 GMT)
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This should be translated as "duct", not "shaft" if part of it is horizontal or if it is tubular as in the following ref:
http://www.pok.fr/produit.php?prod=115
Also see:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1313/1075498012_d1c850d31e.jp...
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Note added at 14 hrs (2010-12-02 09:27:42 GMT)
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This should be translated as "duct", not "shaft" if part of it is horizontal or if it is tubular as in the following ref:
http://www.pok.fr/produit.php?prod=115
Also see:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1313/1075498012_d1c850d31e.jp...
Peer comment(s):
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Bourth (X)
: Must get a newer Dicobat!
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Thanks Bourth. It's a sub-entry in mine, near the end of various things listed under "gaine".
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Reference comments
13 minutes
Travelin Ann
Native in anglais
Works in field
Timely translations
Native in: anglais
Works in: français vers anglais, anglais, anglais vers français
Related KudoZ points
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4
Reference:
Fire Safety Building regs
Ref is from Google books and quite long, so I've provided a tinyurl
It says, in part:
"Buildings...should be provided with firefighting shafts(s)..."
It says, in part:
"Buildings...should be provided with firefighting shafts(s)..."
Reference:
Peer comments on this reference comment:
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B D Finch
: That would be a good reference if a "gaine pompier" was a firefighting shaft, but a firefighter would have to be dreadfully thin to squeeze into one (see the pictures in the refs added to my answer).
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