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jusque là étanches

anglais translation: previously sealed

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Terme ou expression en français : jusque là étanches
Traduction en anglais :previously sealed
Entrée par  : Angelina Galanska

20:22 Nov 18, 2019
traduction français vers anglais [Général]
Art/Literary - Poésie et littérature
Terme ou expression en français : jusque là étanches
faire communiquer des mondes jusque là étanches
Angelina Galanska
États-Unis
previously sealed
Explication :
Why not?

"make previously sealed worlds communicate"

That would apply to very different contexts.
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Nicolas Gambardella
Royaume-Uni
Local time: 11:34
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Résumé des réponses proposées
4impervious...for the first time [rewording]
Cyril Tollari
2 +2hitherto impenetrable
Tony M
3 -1previously sealed
Nicolas Gambardella
3 -1no longer isolated
Stephanie Benoist
2 -1until then shut off
SafeTex


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1 heure   confiance : Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 approbation des pairs (net) : -1
previously sealed


Explication :
Why not?

"make previously sealed worlds communicate"

That would apply to very different contexts.

Nicolas Gambardella
Royaume-Uni
Local time: 11:34
Langue maternelle : français
Notes au répondeur
Demandeur : I think this is it! thank you!


Commentaires des pairs sur cette réponse (et réponses des répondeurs)
Désaccord  Carol Gullidge: you have not explained how "sealed worlds" could work in this context - or any other, for that matter!
1 jour 19 heures
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2 heures   confiance : Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
impervious...for the first time [rewording]


Explication :
faire communiquer des mondes jusque là étanches.
to enable communication between mutually impervious worlds for the first time.
OR
to enable mutually impervious worlds to communicate for the first time. (preferred)

Cyril Tollari
France
Local time: 12:34
Langue maternelle : français

Commentaires des pairs sur cette réponse (et réponses des répondeurs)
Neutre  Eliza Hall: "Impervious" suggests the worlds could not RECEIVE outside influences. But in context ("communiquer des mondes..."), the idea here seems to involve communicating something FROM those worlds TO the outside world/other worlds.
6 heures
  -> That’s not how I understand this phrase. Etanche to me means they cannot communicate between each other.
Neutre  Yvonne Gallagher: with Eliza. Impervious means blocking all input
12 heures
Neutre  Tony M: I agree with the others: 'impervious' is unlikely to be the right lexical choice here.
20 heures
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3 heures   confiance : Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 approbation des pairs (net) : -1
until then shut off


Explication :
I'm not sure as others have mentioned a lack of context but we do say "to be shut off from the outside world" so "worlds until then shut off" is just a grammatical variant of a well-known expression.

SafeTex
France
Local time: 12:34
Langue maternelle : anglais

Commentaires des pairs sur cette réponse (et réponses des répondeurs)
Désaccord  Tony M: Regardless of the 'shut off' aspect, it has to be remembered that 'là' in FR means both 'here' and also 'there' — hence it is equally likely to be 'now' as 'then', so better to avoid committing, in the absence of that much-needed context!
1 jour 15 heures
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16 heures   confiance : Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 approbation des pairs (net) : -1
no longer isolated


Explication :
"worlds " , i thought of something like east/west germany...

Stephanie Benoist
France
Local time: 12:34
Spécialisé dans le domaine
Langue maternelle : anglais

Commentaires des pairs sur cette réponse (et réponses des répondeurs)
Désaccord  Tony M: Yes, but this turns the sense round from 'up till now' to 'from now on'
6 heures
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23 heures   confiance : Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 approbation des pairs (net) : +2
jusque là étanches
hitherto impenetrable


Explication :
With the same proviso that lack of context makes it impossible to get the tone right here.

It seems to me that 'hitherto' is often very useful for expressions like 'jusque là', as it does not place the expression in time in relation to the present or past.

And 'impenetrable' might work, if we are talking about communications getting in somewhere — but of course, a different term would be needed if we were talking about communications getting out!

Tony M
France
Local time: 12:34
Travaille dans le domaine
Langue maternelle : anglais
Points PRO dans la catégorie : 128

Commentaires des pairs sur cette réponse (et réponses des répondeurs)
Accord  Carol Gullidge: I would have used "hitherto"! As for the rest, it's impossible to hazard a guess without context
20 heures
  -> Thanks, Carol! Ah, « les grands esprits... » :-)
Accord  philgoddard: Or hermetic.
3 jours 17 heures
  -> Thanks, Phil!
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