du beau knicker

16:53 Apr 5, 2013
French to English translations [PRO]
Textiles / Clothing / Fashion / Headline in a local newspaper
French term or phrase: du beau knicker
"Ouverture des 21es Piolets d'or: du beau knicker en lice, cette annee!"

Apologies for the no accents. A headline seen in a local newspaper - some sort of sports event. Anyone know what 'du beau knicker' means? I'm guessing some sort of reference to clothing (long shorts? smart v casual?).

Sorry not to give more context, but I only noted down the headline, thinking I could easily find out what it meant via the wonderful world of the internet. But no, I couldn't. :-)

Not sure whether to make this pro or non-pro, but I'm guessing what I really need is a native French speaker of a certain age, not a professional translator, with or without a dictionary!
Charlotte Allen
United Kingdom
Local time: 04:42


Summary of answers provided
3 +1climbers
Yvonne Gallagher
3 -1top climbers competing this year!
Daryo
2 -1thermal wear
SafeTex
Summary of reference entries provided
Beau en knicker
Josephine Cassar
Mountaineering
Emma Paulay

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9 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
du beau knicker en lice, cette année!
top climbers competing this year!


Explanation:
"Ouverture des 21es Piolets d'or: du beau knicker en lice, cette année!"

knicker = part of the climbing gear => talking of climbers

"du beau knicker" pun on "du beau monde" i.e. "top people"


"... Rocher de Marlens : la première traversée de la voie "normale", avec moi dedans! On apprécie l'allure générale : knickers, bretelles, ceinture d'encordement, grosses chaussettes, chaussures (des bonnes : c'était des Terray-Saussois, super pour grattonner). C'est sûr qu'aujourd'hui mon costume a légèrement changé...!..."
[http://chaps.canalblog.com/archives/p30-10.html]

Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 04:42
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in FrenchFrench
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disagree  Sasa Kalcik:
320 days
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17 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): -1
thermal wear


Explanation:
Have a hunch that as my grandma used to wear 'knickerbockers' to keep warm, the mayor may have been referring to the snazzy thermal wear that top climbers wear today.
This guess (low) is largely based on the work of others who have tried to help (credits)

SafeTex
France
Local time: 05:42
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 11

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disagree  Daryo: not exactly - not many grandma climbers//these "knickers" are like breeches/below knees trousers their main point is giving liberty of movement when climbing//not much warm - today's gear is real "thermal wear".
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182 days   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
climbers


Explanation:
surely these knickers are climbing breeches or knickerbockers which many climbers used to wear with long socks. Still worn in Austria? (as i Emma's ref)

To me, this seems to be a "Synecdoche" , a part taken for the whole:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/synecdoche

as here where the breeches/knickerbockers are used (as shorthand) to describe the people wearing them i.e the climbers and I agree with Daryo/David that it's probably a pun on "du beau monde/linge"

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Note added at 182 days (2013-10-05 10:44:22 GMT)
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"top" climbers is a bit specific without more context to know who they are. They could be just (local) celebrities doing a climb for all we know...
beau monde =smart set


Yvonne Gallagher
Ireland
Local time: 04:42
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 101

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agree  Sasa Kalcik
138 days
  -> Thanks:-)
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Reference comments


13 mins
Reference: Beau en knicker

Reference information:
http://www.ledauphine.com/haute-savoie/2013/04/05/ouverture-... it is

Josephine Cassar
Malta
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in MalteseMaltese
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6 mins
Reference: Mountaineering

Reference information:
According to the header, it is a saying from the Cannes area.

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Note added at 13 mins (2013-04-05 17:06:57 GMT)
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The sport is mountaineering, and knickers=knickerbockers, i.e. clothing worn by climbers (presumably in a bygone age). However, that doesn't tell us why he said that and what the saying means. The article probably explains but it's behind a paywall. In short, you need to find a Dauphiné subscriber or a Cannes resident...


    Reference: http://www.ledauphine.com/haute-savoie/chamonix-mont-blanc
Emma Paulay
France
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 36

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
neutral  David Goward: Cannes = pun on "Palme d'or", I reckon. Knicker appears to be current jargon for 3/4 climbing pants. I reckon there's a play on words on "du beau linge", i.e. the big-wigs.
2 hrs
  -> Thanks David. I reckon you're spot on there. I didn't think of the Palme d'Or ref. In which case, yes, it's just knickers as in "corsaire" and a play on beau linge/monde.
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