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engloutissement

anglais translation: being swallowed up

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Terme ou expression en français :engloutissement
Traduction en anglais : being swallowed up
Entrée par  : jambo

08:08 Jun 11, 2006
traduction français vers anglais [PRO]
Art/Literary - Poésie et littérature
Terme ou expression en français : engloutissement
This has to do with Greek and Egyptian mythology. The word means something along the lines of "gobbling up" but I can't get it to fit in the sentence.
"Donc ce serpent c'est l'archétype du monde de l'engloutissement mais c'est aussi la renaissance.
jambo
Local time: 13:51
archetype of the world being swallowed up
Explication :
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Note added at 26 mins (2006-06-11 08:35:24 GMT)
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sinking/diseappearing in abysmal/abyssal mouth
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Najib Aloui
Local time: 12:51
Grading comment
Thank you very much ganemo this is the answer that suited me best.Thanks also to allthe other people for your help.
Jambo
4 points KudoZ ont été attribués à cette réponse



Résumé des réponses proposées
3 +2a world that devours
Gabriel Csaba
3 +2consumption
Michele Fauble
3 +1Smothered / Lost / Engulfed / Obliterated
zaphod
3 +1archetype of the world being swallowed up
Najib Aloui
4swallowing its tail
Jeffrey Lewis
4depths, underworld
NancyLynn
4being swallowed up
Ben Gaia
2voracity / engulfing
Jennifer Gal
2Engulfment
Julie Barber


  

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26 minutes   confiance : Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 approbation des pairs (net) : +1
Smothered / Lost / Engulfed / Obliterated


Explication :
Synonym for Hell / Netherworld / Underworld

"L'Histoire d'Ys, la cite engloutti"

zaphod
Local time: 13:51
Langue maternelle : anglais, français
Points PRO dans la catégorie : 10

Commentaires des pairs sur cette réponse (et réponses des répondeurs)
Accord  NancyLynn
4 heures
  -> Thanks much
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22 minutes   confiance : Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 approbation des pairs (net) : +1
archetype of the world being swallowed up


Explication :
...

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Note added at 26 mins (2006-06-11 08:35:24 GMT)
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sinking/diseappearing in abysmal/abyssal mouth

Najib Aloui
Local time: 12:51
Travaille dans le domaine
Langue maternelle : français
Points PRO dans la catégorie : 4
Grading comment
Thank you very much ganemo this is the answer that suited me best.Thanks also to allthe other people for your help.
Jambo

Commentaires des pairs sur cette réponse (et réponses des répondeurs)
Accord  Ingeborg Gowans (X): If it refers to the serbent as the origin of sin and evil it is more understandable to think that she"swallowed up the world" in the sense that all people after Adam and Eve are in the sense swallowed up in sin and fallen for the viles of Satan
9 heures
  -> Thank you Ingeborg...I am not sure the notions of sin and evil ,satan,are to be found in Egyptian and Greek mythologies...The serpent swallowing its tail is a universal archetype, the world collapsing and then knowing a new birth...
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35 minutes   confiance : Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
voracity / engulfing


Explication :
These are just a couple more suggestions for you. Voracity, figuratively, might work - if he's consuming endlessly, can't be satisfied. Engulf would more capture the meaning of his swallowing up massive amounts in one fell swoop.

Or neither...

Good luck, with your good question. It looks like people had fun with it.

Jen Gal

Jennifer Gal
Hongrie
Langue maternelle : anglais
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47 minutes   confiance : Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 approbation des pairs (net) : +2
monde de l'engloutissement
a world that devours


Explication :
If this is the Egyptian god Apep/Apophis we're talking about, it was the embodiment of absolute evil and darkness in the form of a giant water-snake, waiting each night to swallow Ra's sun-ship when it was crossing the underworld. I would therefore choose to rephrase the whole sentence.

Exemple de phrase(s) :
  • This serpent is thus the archetype of a world that devours, but also gives new birth.

    Référence : http://touregypt.net/featurestories/apep.htm
    Référence : http://www.thekeep.org/~kunoichi/kunoichi/themestream/apep.h...
Gabriel Csaba
Argentine
Local time: 08:51
Travaille dans le domaine
Langue maternelle : espagnol, hongrois

Commentaires des pairs sur cette réponse (et réponses des répondeurs)
Accord  Rachel Fell: or: This serpent is thus the archetype of the theme of devouring, but also of rebirth\\or idea rather than theme - I like "devour"
2 heures
  -> Thanks Rachel! I like "the theme of", nice touch!
Accord  sporran
5 heures
  -> Thanks!
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56 minutes   confiance : Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 approbation des pairs (net) : +2
consumption


Explication :
'consumption and rebirth'

or 'annihilation and rebirth' if the context does not require you to keep the ingesting image.



Michele Fauble
États-Unis
Local time: 04:51
Langue maternelle : anglais
Points PRO dans la catégorie : 11

Commentaires des pairs sur cette réponse (et réponses des répondeurs)
Accord  Gabriel Csaba: Damn, I think you nailed it! Now I like your version better than my own...
11 minutes
  -> thanks
Accord  RSK
1 jour 15 heures
  -> thanks
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1 heure   confiance : Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
swallowing its tail


Explication :
"The serpent swallowing its tail is the symbol (or archetype) of the world in which things disappear and are forgotten; but it is also a symbol of return and completing a circle, and that is the renaissance (the rediscovery of ancient learning stimulating new discoveries)."

I don't mean to make your sentence longer. The parts in ( ) are just to be understood.

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I like all the answers. I wish we had more stuff like this to work on! Hi, all, I'm off to church after staying up all night - it'll be like a 'cathedrale engloutie' for me.

Jeffrey Lewis
États-Unis
Local time: 06:51
Spécialisé dans le domaine
Langue maternelle : anglais
Points PRO dans la catégorie : 24
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5 heures   confiance : Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
depths, underworld


Explication :
the serpent is the archetype of the depths as well as of rebirth (or renaissance)
I think it refers to Hades

NancyLynn
Canada
Local time: 07:51
Travaille dans le domaine
Langue maternelle : anglais
Points PRO dans la catégorie : 16
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8 heures   confiance : Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
Engulfment


Explication :
engulfment and rebirth

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a goog snakey link, that talks about rebirth & renewal as the snake sheds + renews his own skin
http://www.reptileallsorts.com/snake-legends.htm

Also ouroboros, uroborus. The symbol, usually in the form of a circle, of a snake (or dragon) eating its tail.

The Ouroboros is a symbol of renewal, infinity, and the Eternal Return (as in Neitzsche's philosophy and Poincaré's recurrence theorem for systems with finite and bounded phase space

One is eternal return, everything being circular, everything recurring and also of a snake eating its tail, of it devouring itself, which is a more negative context
http://www.millenniumdesktop.co.uk/html/mduk2_ouroboros.htm

whilst the site above talks about the snake devouring itself, there is a concept of 'eternal return' - death & rebirth

Julie Barber
Royaume-Uni
Local time: 12:51
Langue maternelle : anglais
Points PRO dans la catégorie : 28
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19 heures   confiance : Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
being swallowed up


Explication :
fits the sentence

Ben Gaia
Nouvelle-Zélande
Local time: 23:51
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Langue maternelle : anglais
Points PRO dans la catégorie : 12
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