déprécier l'usage d'un immeuble

anglais translation: impair its financial value or usability

12:02 Mar 19, 2021

traduction français vers anglais [PRO]
Law/Patents - Droit (général)

Terme ou expression en français : déprécier l'usage d'un immeuble

Promise of sale

"Le PROMETTANT s'interdit pendant toute la durée de validité des présentes, d'aliéner, au profit d'un autre, tout ou partie du bien vendu, de conférer aucun droit réel ni charge quelconque sur ledit bien, de le louer (sauf stipulations particulières et expresses des présentes), et d'accomplir tout acte ou de consentir à tout fait et action qui aurait pour effet d'affecter notablement sa nature ou sa consistance, ou d'en déprécier la valeur ou l'usage."

Trying to understand how you can "depreciate the use" of a property. I'm assuming that usage here is meant in the sense of destination, i.e. "intended use". The property in question is a residential property. So maybe they mean "impair the intended use" by doing something to it which makes this "less" of a residential property and more like some other kind of property.

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Traduction en anglais :impair its financial value or usability

Explication :
This is closer to the French than the previous suggestions. And I don't believe it means "change its intended use to something less valuable".

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philgoddard
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4 +3

impair its financial value or usability

philgoddard

3 +2

depreciate in value or use, or depreciate its value or use.

Andrew Paul Kennett

lower its value for its intended purpose

Conor McAuley

2 +1

to blight the use of a property

Adrian MM.

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AllegroTrans

Royaume-Uni

It is not a restrctive covenant at all

02:34 Mar 22, 2021

Restrictive covenants (servitudes en francais) attach to the land not a person. In this case it is a condition of the sale contract. Marco: it is a "promise" of sale but we don't use that term in English, we call this a sale agreement or contract

Daryo

Royaume-Uni

@ Marco Solinas

09:10 Mar 20, 2021

you are right - it is a kind of "restrictive covenant" but the opposite of the usual one - it's binding the seller (not the buyer) and in the period before the sale (not after the sale).

Marco Solinas

It is a promise of sale

01:46 Mar 20, 2021

It is important to keep in mind that this is a promise of sale, not a deed of sale. The restrictions apply during the period of validity of the "présentes" (the promise of sale). It can be reasonably presumed that they will no longer apply after the sale is finalized.

Saeed Najmi

Maroc

18:07 Mar 19, 2021

@AllegroTrans: I might agree that what is ''impaired'' is ''the fitness for use'' rather than the use itself. My concern being to share my own perception of the source phrase, I overlooked wording details. As for ''destination of use'', meaning ''purpose of use'', I am afraid it is feasible in English.

AllegroTrans

Royaume-Uni

16:03 Mar 19, 2021

@Saeed:"usage" is not "depreciated" but "fitness for use" is "impaired"; we would never use "destination" in English in this context as it as a word implying a place or location

Saeed Najmi

Maroc

15:19 Mar 19, 2021

My understanding is if the use of part of the property is allowed for some destination other than residence, say if part of it is used for some business or leisure activity, the value and usage of the entire residence is hence depreciated.

Conor McAuley

France

14:40 Mar 19, 2021

Good idea Marco. Phil is possibly right too.

It's a strange/unclear (to me, anyway) way of phrasing the intended meaning, and/or we need a native speaker of French for an opinion.

Marco Solinas

To Asker

14:31 Mar 19, 2021

Have you considered the possibility that, in this case, "usage" might mean "useful life"?

Mpoma

Royaume-Uni

ASKER

@AllegroTrans

13:39 Mar 19, 2021

but what about the ou in that case? The phrasing couldn't be clearer: EITHER impair the value OR depreciate/impair ... something else. Rather like your "fitness for purpose" suggestion...

AllegroTrans

Royaume-Uni

Mpoma

13:25 Mar 19, 2021

I don't read this as "making it "less" of a residential property and more like some other kind of property". Surely what is meant is doing something (e.g. knocking half of it down) that lowers it value

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23 minutes confiance :

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depreciate in value or use, or depreciate its value or use.

Explication :
Hi Mpoma,
I think that here you have to look at something like any action which will depreciate the value of the propriety by changing its intended use to something which is less valuable. In which case, the value in price would fall. The intended use of the propriety having changed, the new use would induce a fall in value.

Andrew Paul Kennett
France
Local time: 12:16
Langue maternelle : anglais, français

1 heure confiance :

approbation des pairs (net) : +1

to blight the use of a property

Explication :
ou d'en déprécier la valeur ou l'usage ... in ENG LAW may boli down to > will be liable for waste...

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may boil down to...

Exemple de phrase(s) :

Waste is a term used in property law to describe a cause of action that can be brought in court to address a *change in condition* of real property brought about by a current tenant that *damages or destroys the value of that property.*
Property blight (sometimes referred to as 'planning blight' or 'blighted land') is the reduction in marketability and value of land as a result of a public sector decision.

Référence : http://www.jstor.org/stable/1109978?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_...
Référence : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waste_(law)

Adrian MM.
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1 heure confiance :

approbation des pairs (net) : +3

impair its financial value or usability

Explication :
This is closer to the French than the previous suggestions. And I don't believe it means "change its intended use to something less valuable".

philgoddard
États-Unis
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Langue maternelle : anglais
Points PRO dans la catégorie : 282

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25 minutes confiance :

lower its value for its intended purpose

Explication :

e.g. "à usage commercial"

https://www.lelynx.fr/assurance-habitation/profil/locataire/...

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"Changement d'usage et changement de destination

La transformation d'un local d'habitation en local professionnel nécessite une démarche administrative préalable.

La notion d'usage, qui relève du code de la construction et de l'habitation, concerne le profil juridique d'un immeuble d'habitation qui fait l'objet d'une protection particulière dans certains cas. Elle ne doit pas être confondue avec la notion de destination qui relève du code de l'urbanisme (ce pour quoi un immeuble a été conçu ou transformé)."

https://www.expertise-immobiliere-aquitaine.fr/b/changement-...

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I agree with your interpretation Mpoma.

Say, if you remove bath or shower facilities from a residential property, it makes the property less suitable for residential use -- tenants can't wash fully in the property any more.

All that being said, I think we need confirmation from a native speaker, as the term is a bit peculiar, haven't come across it before.

Conor McAuley
France
Local time: 12:16
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