toute émanation

anglais translation: emanation of the state

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Terme ou expression en français :toute émanation
Traduction en anglais :emanation of the state
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19:52 May 28, 2015
traduction français vers anglais [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Finance (général)
Terme ou expression en français : toute émanation
de toute émanation...d'un Etat

In this context, for a loan, many thanks

nonobstant toute autre stipulation des présentes, s'abstenir d'accomplir tout acte qui serait ou pourrait être, à ses yeux, contraire à une loi applicable d'un pays ou à toute directive ou réglementation applicable de toute émanation d'un Etat ou qui le rendrait ou pourrait le rendre responsable vis-à-vis de toute personne, et pouvoir accomplir tout acte qui, à ses yeux, est nécessaire pour respecter les prescriptions d'une telle loi, directive ou réglementation ;
EirTranslations
Irlande
Local time: 23:50
emanation of the state
Explication :
... to any order or effective rule from any emanation of a State...
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Daniel Babis (X)
Brésil
Local time: 18:50
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thx
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Résumé des réponses proposées
4 +3emanation of the state
Daniel Babis (X)
5 -1of any State issuance
papier
4 -2any loans issued by
nweatherdon
4 -2promulgated by [the government of] a State
TechLawDC
Summary of reference entries provided
Emanation of the state
Daryo

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13 minutes   confiance : Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 approbation des pairs (net) : -2
any loans issued by


Explication :
There would be a few ways to say this, but "any loan issued by a state" or "whenever the loan is issued by a state" or "whenever issued by a state" all seem fine to me. The proposed answer is the third of these.

I don't usually use the capital S for State in English, but I think it is not uncommon to keep the capital letter.

nweatherdon
Canada
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Commentaires des pairs sur cette réponse (et réponses des répondeurs)
Désaccord  Daryo: ??? the whole ST may be about a loan, but "émanation...d'un Etat" has NOTHING to do with a State giving any kind of loan to anyone
1 heure

Désaccord  B D Finch: Not at all what the term means.
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53 minutes   confiance : Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 approbation des pairs (net) : +3
emanation of the state


Explication :
... to any order or effective rule from any emanation of a State...

Daniel Babis (X)
Brésil
Local time: 18:50
Spécialisé dans le domaine
Langue maternelle : anglais, français
Points PRO dans la catégorie : 4
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thx

Commentaires des pairs sur cette réponse (et réponses des répondeurs)
Accord  Daryo: simply
49 minutes

Accord  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: emanation of the State (capital letter on State as given in the body of your answer). https://quizlet.com/12080757/emanation-of-the-state-flash-ca... /// Oo, yes. I agree with TL-DC and BD. Sounds yucky in EN but it is Eurospeak.
11 heures

Accord  B D Finch: TechLawDC is right about this being "unidiomatic in English", but it is unfortunately a currently accepted Eurospeak and European law term. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emanation_of_the_state
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1 heure   confiance : Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 approbation des pairs (net) : -2
de toute émanation d'un Etat
promulgated by [the government of] a State


Explication :
any applicable directive, regulation, or guideline, promulgated by [the government of] a State ...
("de toute émanation" refers back to the directives etc.)

TechLawDC
États-Unis
Local time: 18:50
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Commentaires des pairs sur cette réponse (et réponses des répondeurs)
Désaccord  Daryo: it does include the government of a State/Region/District/Town, but NOT ONLY /// the point is that it refers to all sort of agencies/public bodies created by the State
8 minutes
  -> (1) In the first place, "d'un Etat" is not part of the question. (2) In the second place, I'm curious to know what you think "Etat" means if not "a State". A municipality, perhaps? A commune? A regional government? (OK a regional govt. is "a State".)

Désaccord  B D Finch: It has a specific meaning in European law: see reference comment.
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6 heures   confiance : Answerer confidence 5/5 approbation des pairs (net) : -1
of any State issuance


Explication :
a suggestion.

papier
Brésil
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Commentaires des pairs sur cette réponse (et réponses des répondeurs)
Désaccord  B D Finch: That's an excessively high level of confidence for an incorrect suggestion.
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Reference comments


1 heure approbation des pairs (net) : +2
Reference: Emanation of the state

Reference information:
Emanation of the state is a term used in European law to describe any body which provides a public service under the control of government. The term was defined by the European Court of Justice (ECJ) in Foster, A and others v. British Gas plc.[1][2] The ECJ's ruling defines the term as:

A body, whatever its legal form, which has been made responsible, pursuant to a measure adopted by the state, for providing a public service under the control of the state and has for that purpose special powers beyond that which result from the normal rules applicable in relations between individuals.

The term is most obviously used to describe public sector employers, such as the police, fire service, local government bodies or schools.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emanation_of_the_state


here " toute émanation...d'un Etat" / "Emanation of the state" is most likely to include all sort of regulatory agencies / supervisory bodies etc created by the State but distinct from the Gouvernement

Daryo
Royaume-Uni
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Demandeur : Thanks


Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
Accord  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: Yup, standard (checakable) eurospeak. Also : http://www.thompsons.law.co.uk/ltext/l0200002.htm
10 heures
  -> for a change EN took a FR word [same root as "les mânes"]
Accord  B D Finch: I think the ECJ made a Franglais choice of terminology, but it rules!
11 heures
  -> yes, much simpler than "created by the State / manifestation/embodiment etc of the State / substantially an institution of the State"
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