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Glossary entry

français term or phrase:

argumentaire

anglais translation:

synopsis

Added to glossary by Magen O'Farrell
Oct 24, 2007 09:06
16 yrs ago
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français term

argumentaire

français vers anglais Art / Littérature Cinéma, film, TV, théâtre
"Argumentaire" is used as the heading of the first page of a five page presentation of a documentary film on the subject of an archaeological excavation.
Proposed translations (anglais)
3 +4 synopsis
4 +4 presentation
3 +1 introduction
5 -1 The argument
3 -1 pitch
2 -1 Written Defense

Discussion

Martin Cassell Oct 25, 2007:
Matthew, my PR has: « [Adj.] Qui concerne les arguments de vente. Liste argumentaire.
[N. m.] Document utilisé par le vendeur, contenant l'ensemble des arguments de vente. Rédiger un argumentaire. »
MatthewLaSon Oct 25, 2007:
I'm not sure how people are getting "synopsis" out of this. According to my monolingual dictionaries, I'm only getting the idea of "defense" (write a defense). I could be wrong, but I'm just going by the definitions I'm reading.

Proposed translations

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39 minutes
Selected

synopsis

If it's a kind of short outline of the content of the rest of the doc (for those who won't read all five pages), I'd go for "synopsis". It's the same meaning as "pitch", but a bit more what you'd find on a written document I think.

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Note added at 41 mins (2007-10-24 09:48:38 GMT)
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Nb. very common term in the film industry, eg:

Bowling for Columbine : About the Film : Synopsis
Film Synopsis · Film One Sheet · Credits · Dedicated · Theaters · DVD. About The Film Synopsis Written, Produced & Directed by Michael Moore. Produced by ...
www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/about/synopsis.php

It's A Wonderful Life (1946)
Review, plot synopsis and discussion of the film.
www.filmsite.org/itsa.html

American Gypsy: The Film
The Film. Jump to: Film Synopsis Full Description · Technical Specs · Pictures · Quotes · Glossary · Order a Copy of the Film. Interview with Jasmine Dellal ...
www.americangypsy.com/the_film/index.html
Peer comment(s):
agree Diane de Cicco : Yes
0 minute
Oh dear - sorry Diane - will cancel
agree Martin Cassell : also good
1 heure
thanks - I think Diane actually pipped me though
agree Ingeborg Gowans (X) : would be my preference
1 heure
thanks - I think Diane actually pipped me though
agree jean-jacques alexandre
8 heures
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you. I think this is the best translation in the context of a film summary. Presentation seems good too, but not specific to this context."
+1
16 minutes

introduction

introduction

argumentaire is a presentation of a product that must be sold,
but I didn't find any equivalent term in English
Introduction can be a solution.
Peer comment(s):
agree Martin Cassell : much more native EN than "presentation"
12 minutes
Thank you Martin
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-1
31 minutes

pitch

this is the film industry term ... otherwise you're back with the generics like "overview": or just read the section concerned and make your own mind up!
Peer comment(s):
disagree veratek : in my understanding, pitch refers to the entire presentation, in fact, more precisely, to the act itself of trying to sell, not a chapter, nor simply a text
14 heures
you may be right: perhaps I'm overapplying in the same way as "presentation" gets overapplied? Still, "pitch" does also get used more abstractly, to mean "the key selling points", so it seemed a possibility here.
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+4
11 minutes

presentation

as you yourself so rightly say to describe what it is

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Note added at 37 mins (2007-10-24 09:43:48 GMT)
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another possibility is SYNOPSIS
Peer comment(s):
agree Shaila Kamath
2 minutes
Thanks
neutral Martin Cassell : "presentation" is so often carried 'as is' over from the FR, and rarely sounds natural to me in EN; it doesn't feel like a native usage here.
22 minutes
I don't agree but given that it is for a film, the word "synopsis" may actually be more appropriate here
agree Melissa McMahon : with synopsis
31 minutes
No problem Melissa
agree B D Finch : Synopsis
4 heures
Thanks
agree veratek : synopsis
14 heures
Thanks
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3 heures

The argument

This is what I use.

From Oxford University Press :

argument

argument, in the specialized literary sense, a brief summary of the plot or subject‐matter of a long poem (or other work), such as those prefixed to the books of Milton's Paradise Lost; or, in a sense closer to everyday usage, the set of opinions expounded in a work (especially in didactic works) and capable of being paraphrased as a logical sequence of propositions.
Reference:

http://www.answers.com/argument?cat=biz-fin&initiator=GoogleAnswersModule

Peer comment(s):
disagree B D Finch : Not in this context.
53 minutes
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-1
20 heures

Written Defense

Hello,

I could be wrong, that's how I understand it.

argumentaire = liste d'arguments

I hope this helps.

Peer comment(s):
disagree Martin Cassell : really doesn't seem to belong to the appropriate « domaine »
4 heures
I agree that it seems strange in this context. But, I can't be convinced of anything without doing more research.
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