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Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

idées délirantes mélancoliformes

English translation:

delusional unipolar depression

Added to glossary by emiledgar
Feb 24, 2007 16:15
17 yrs ago
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French term

idées délirantes mélancoliformes

French to English Medical Medical (general)
This is a diagnosis. It's the word "melancoliformes" that I'm having the difficulty with.
Proposed translations (English)
4 -2 delusional unipolar depression
4 +4 depressive delusional ideation
4 delusional, melancholy-like (or simply "sad") thoughts
3 delirious, melancholic ideas
3 -1 delirium and melancholy-like ideas
Change log

Feb 24, 2007 16:18: Florence Bremond changed "Language pair" from "English to French" to "French to English"

Feb 24, 2007 16:18: Florence Bremond changed "Term asked" from "idees delirantes melancoliformes" to "idées délirantes mélancoliformes"

Discussion

Dr Sue Levy (X) Mar 5, 2007:
@ Emile: This is NOT a diagnosis, however you may interpret it (have you studied psychiatry?). There is no mention of unipolar depression. Your glossary entry is quite misleading - one more to add to the bunch.
Catherine GUILLIAUMET Feb 27, 2007:
Comment se fait-il que je recoive encore une fois des questions FR>EN ???? Désolée pour ma remarque dans "praticiens hospitaliers" à propos de votre supposée mauvaise orientation de la question. Il y a visiblement un bug. Par contre, je crois franchement que ma réponse pour ces praticiens peut vous être plus qu'utile
Dr Sue Levy (X) Feb 24, 2007:
It's not a diagnosis but part of the symptomatology

Proposed translations

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delusional unipolar depression

Flammarion: Dictionnaire Medécine

mélancolie: etat dépressif psychotique aigui caractérisé par une douleur morale intense, une inhibitionpsychomotrice et des sentiments de conviction pessimiste...

délire: (angl delusion) Distorsion radicale de la relation entre l'individu et la réalité, se traduisant par une conviction erronée s'opposant aux données de celle-ci ou du sens commun....

ScienceDirect - Biological Psychiatry : Decreased dopamine beta ...The present study was conducted to test the hypothesis that geriatric patients with unipolar delusional depression have lower serum DBH activity than ...
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[PDF] Disordered Verbalizations in Schizophrenia: A Speech Disturbance ...File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
(including 48 nonpsychotic unipolar depressive disorders or ... for delusional ideas using the Schedule for Affective Disorders. and Schizophrenia (SADS). ...
linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0010440X03001135 - Similar pages

Rural StressThere are basically three forms: bipolar and unipolar manic depression, ... Delusional ideas are normally very rigid and arguing with an individual ...
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[PDF] Suicidality in bipolar compared to unipolar depressed inpatientsFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
ing the hospital stay) between bipolar and unipolar de-. pressed inpatients. ... sional perception, sudden delusional ideas, delusional ideas, system- ...
www.springerlink.com/index/7X70LKVUGQ6LQGWL.pdf - Similar pages

Type and content of delusions in unipolar psychotic depression.In a prospective study the authors compared unipolar psychotic and ... The type and content of delusional ideas were similar from episode to episode. ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubM... - Similar pages

Fluoxetine as monotherapy in psychosisTwenty-two days afterwards, the delusional ideas, and the depressive disappeared. ... Nelson, J. & Bowers, M. (1978) Delusional unipolar depression: ...
www.priory.com/fluox.htm - 32k - Cached - Similar pages
Peer comment(s):
disagree Michael Barnett : The patient may indeed have a unipolar depression, but that is for the psychiatrist to decide. The source text simply describes some symptoms.
3 hrs
Well, the asker said it was the diagnosis. So that's what I was going on. She didn't say anything about symptoms. I'm not psychic, nor am I a psychiatrist although I have interpreted for them many times.
disagree Dr Sue Levy (X) : Sorry Liz but I'll have to disagree very strongly seeing that Asker has chosen this - "idées" are not diagnosis but symptoms - Asker is not a medical translator, hence the confusion
8 days
Fair enough. And I do see your point.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you. This, in fact, is a psychiatrist's diagnosis."
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delirium and melancholy-like ideas

A Dictionary of Psychological Medicine: Giving the Definition, ... - Google Books Resultby Daniel Hack Tuke - 1892 - 1477 pages
In the midst of so characteristic and pitiable a picture of delirium ... it is logically connected with the melancholy ideas as expressed by the patients. ...
books.google.com/books?id=uYLclT40VIUC...
the good man strange impressions due to melancholy or delirium, ideas not determined by the principle of what is choice-worthy but contrary to nature. ...
praxeology.net/stoics.htm - 25k - Cached - Similar pages

the good man strange impressions due to melancholy or delirium, ideas not determined by the principle of what is choice-worthy but contrary to nature. ...
praxeology.net/stoics.htm - 25k - Cached - Similar pages


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Peer comment(s):
disagree liz askew : faux-ami I'm afraid. Délire = delusion.
1 hr
oui , merci liz. On parle de delirium ou mania quand c'est aigu
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delirious, melancholic ideas

mélancoliforme doesn't seem to be a common word - I can't find dictionary entries, and there are only 140 ghits for it, but from the context of these it would appear that my suggestion would fit.

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Note added at 1 hr (2007-02-24 17:19:04 GMT)
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perhaps this would fit better:
ideas of a delerious, melacholic nature

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Note added at 1 hr (2007-02-24 17:21:37 GMT)
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sorry, that should be "ideas of a delirious, melancholic nature" of course
Peer comment(s):
disagree liz askew : idées délirantes = delusional ideas.
22 mins
agree Anca Nitu : http://www.granddictionaire.com/btml/fra/r_motclef/index1024...
2 hrs
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4 hrs

depressive delusional ideation

or depressive delusions
Peer comment(s):
agree Jim Tucker (X)
18 mins
thanks Jim
agree Michael Barnett : You submitted this just to make me look bad, didn't you!
22 mins
absolutely, made my evening :-)))
agree Paige Stanton (X)
13 hrs
agree Drmanu49
19 hrs
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delusional, melancholy-like (or simply "sad") thoughts

Delirium is something else entirely.
These symptoms, not a diagnosis.
I like the term "thoughts" more than ideas.

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Note added at 5 hrs (2007-02-24 21:17:39 GMT)
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That is, "These ARE symptoms..."
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