rentrée

anglais translation: indented / forked

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Terme ou expression en français :rentrée
Traduction en anglais :indented / forked
Entrée par  : Lavinia Pirlog

19:13 Mar 6, 2016
traduction français vers anglais [PRO]
Religions
Terme ou expression en français : rentrée
Croix templière pattée rentrée

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Lavinia Pirlog
Roumanie
Local time: 02:55
indented / forked
Explication :
The Maltese cross has arms which narrow towards the center, and are indented at the ends.
http://www.holylandtreasuresonline.com/Store/Content/Resourc...

Maltese cross. A Greek cross with arms that taper into the center. The outer ends may be forked.
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Cross
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Wendy Streitparth
Allemagne
Local time: 01:55
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Résumé des réponses proposées
4branchee
Charles Davis
3Cross patty
dwt2
3indented / forked
Wendy Streitparth


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Cross patty


Explication :
See
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_pattée

dwt2
Royaume-Uni
Local time: 00:55
Langue maternelle : anglais
Notes au répondeur
Demandeur : Thank you, but I need ''rentrée'', not ''pattée''


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Neutre  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: No doubt helpful, but I think the Asker is wanting help with how "rentrée" fits in.
11 minutes
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branchee


Explication :
As so often, the English heraldic term is actually taken from French, though the accent is usually omitted.

Roy has already helpfully posted images of the kind of cross referred to as "pattée rentrée". Here they are again:
https://www.google.es/search?biw=1024&bih=644&tbm=isch&sa=1&...

Now, as he says, these are very similar to the type of cross known in heraldry as a cross moline:
https://www.google.es/search?q="cross moline"&num=100&tbm=is...

They are in the same family, as it were, as the well-known Maltese cross, but clearly not the same:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltese_cross

However, although I thought at first that this type of cross was a moline cross, I've changed my mind. In a proper moline cross the points of the arms are more splayed. When you can compare them, the "croix pattée rentrée" is actually a "cross formee branchee". Here are some illustrations that allow you to distinguish them from each other, and also from the cross ancree, with the splayed arms curl round to form a kind of hook.

http://www.orderstjohn.org/osj/cross04.gif
from this page:
http://www.orderstjohn.org/osj/cross.htm

http://www.vanishingtattoo.com/tds/images/cross/cross_large/...

"The cross is a cross formee branchee since the Maltese Cross didn't exist until the 16th century."
See illustration (first post on the page).
http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=85735.0

This is really a formy or formee cross rather than a cross pattee, whose arms are much more splayed:
http://www.knightsusa.org/contents.html#Anchor-34180

"Branchee" can be applied to an ordinary Latin cross too. See here "St George's Cross Branchee"
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ufe04.html#04-4



Charles Davis
Espagne
Local time: 01:55
Langue maternelle : anglais
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Demandeur : Thank you.

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indented / forked


Explication :
The Maltese cross has arms which narrow towards the center, and are indented at the ends.
http://www.holylandtreasuresonline.com/Store/Content/Resourc...

Maltese cross. A Greek cross with arms that taper into the center. The outer ends may be forked.
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Cross

Wendy Streitparth
Allemagne
Local time: 01:55
Langue maternelle : anglais
Points PRO dans la catégorie : 8
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Demandeur : Thank you.

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