autre(s) personne(s) pouvant engager la personne physique assujettie

anglais translation: other person(s) able to commit the liable/taxable individual

09:07 Jun 24, 2017

traduction français vers anglais [PRO]
Law/Patents - Droit : contrat(s)

Terme ou expression en français : autre(s) personne(s) pouvant engager la personne physique assujettie

I am translating some documents relating to setting up a business in Senegal. This is one of the boxes to tick, or not. I assume that the "personne physique" here is the company but can't get my head round "assujettie" here.
Thanks for any help.

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Traduction en anglais :other person(s) able to commit the liable/taxable individual

Explication :
engager = to commit
personne physique = natural person, individual

assujetti(e) = liable (e.g, for a tax)

La personne assujettie au péage doit, avant le 31 mars de l'année suivante au plus tard, présenter la demande de remboursement
[...]
eur-lex.europa.eu

The party liable for toll must present - by 31 March of the following year at the latest - the request for a toll reimbursement
[...]
eur-lex.europa.eu

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AllegroTrans
Royaume-Uni
Local time: 07:30

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Thanks to all contributors. I couldn't see how an individual could be taxable, so changed this to "subject to taxation". Thanks again.
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other person(s) able to commit the liable/taxable individual

AllegroTrans

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Nikki Scott-Despaigne

12:30 Jun 25, 2017

"Commit" is not the correct term here. In legalese, the term is "to bind".

Jennifer White

Royaume-Uni

ASKER

Yes, that's the right version.

13:32 Jun 24, 2017

Thanks. A bit clearer now.

ph-b (X)

France

The version that I can't access

13:25 Jun 24, 2017

[PDF]Mise en page 1
tcbamako.ml/index.php/documentation/category/14-modification?download...
... SECONDAIRE ou à UNE SUCCURSALE. ☐ Identification ☐ Activité(s) ☐ Transfert ☐ Autre(s) personne(s) pouvant engager la personne physique assujettie.

ph-b (X)

France

Jennifer,

13:21 Jun 24, 2017

AllegroTrans is right: your text comes from a request to modify a power of attorney. I've found a ref to a Mali versionversion but it cannot be accessed on the Net (the link doesn't work) but here is a French version:(http://www.entreprises.cci-paris-idf.fr/c/document_library/g... This is about appointing someone or in your case modifying the appointment of someone legally allowed to 'commit', i.e. act on behalf of, someone else that is assujettie [à un impôt, à la TVA, etc.], i.e. taxable.

Jennifer White

Royaume-Uni

ASKER

A Trans

13:11 Jun 24, 2017

Thanks, but I have given as much info as there is. It's a form for a new business registration. See my note to Peter.

AllegroTrans

Royaume-Uni

@ Jennifer

12:54 Jun 24, 2017

Well, you haven't given us the full context, but I can only assume it means commit to a liabilty (e.g. as a guarantor) for something such as tax or compliance with a requirement

Jennifer White

Royaume-Uni

ASKER

A Trans

12:41 Jun 24, 2017

Thanks, I know the vocab, but what does your answer actually mean? Commit what?

AllegroTrans

Royaume-Uni

@ Peter

12:38 Jun 24, 2017

"Hypothecate to" is not a term we would ever use (at least in UK En) in this context

Jennifer White

Royaume-Uni

ASKER

Peter

12:29 Jun 24, 2017

Thanks, fine, but I can't see how the word "taxpayer" fits here. That's my main problem. It seems that these are people who may have some dealings with this new business.

Peter Field

Royaume-Uni

12:19 Jun 24, 2017

As Ellen points out, the 'physical person' is not a company but a private individual or 'natural person' enjoying rights and obligations, as opposed to the 'personne morale' or legal entity / company.

http://dictionary.reverso.net/french-english/personne physiq...

Peter Field

Royaume-Uni

12:03 Jun 24, 2017

other person(s) able to hypothecate [to] the private [individual] taxpayer

http://www.btb.termiumplus.gc.ca/tpv2alpha/alpha-fra.html?la...

Jennifer White

Royaume-Uni

ASKER

Ellen

10:36 Jun 24, 2017

thanks, but I don't speak German!!

Ellen Kraus

Autriche

10:35 Jun 24, 2017

die physische Person ist keine Firma, sondern die "natürliche" Person (jeder Mensch mit all seinen Rechten) im Ggsatz zur juristischen Person. Bitte stell den kompletten Satz ein, evtl auch den vorhergehenden und/oder nachfolgenden.

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other person(s) able to commit the liable/taxable individual

AllegroTrans
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Local time: 07:30
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Grading comment

Thanks to all contributors. I couldn't see how an individual could be taxable, so changed this to "subject to taxation". Thanks again.

Commentaires des pairs sur cette réponse (et réponses des répondeurs)

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ph-b (X): http://www.entreprises.cci-paris-idf.fr/c/document_library/g...

45 minutes

-> thank you

Accord

Dareth Pray: I agree. I would probably say "bind the taxable person" but the concept is the same.

3 heures

-> yes, "bind" would also work

Accord

writeaway: but I think pouvant is authorised here, not just capable. stemming from pouvoir=authority.

7 heures

-> yes I think authorised is implied

Neutre

Nikki Scott-Despaigne: "Bind" is compuslory; at first sight, "commit" wld suggest this is about a power to have someone committed (to prison?), which is not the case, of course. Also, I agree about "authority" here but think that "to be able to" does the trick.

23 heures

-> I agree that "bind" is used more often, but I have seen "commit" used in exactly this same context in legal documents

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