Oct 3, 2006 08:04
17 yrs ago
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français term
boulimie énergétique
français vers anglais
Sciences sociales
Énergie / génération d'électricité
"Les pays développés sont les plus gros émetteurs de gaz à effet de serre en rapport avec leur population, en raison de la boulimie énergétique de leur modèle économique"
Anyone have a nice way of putting this? Thanks
Anyone have a nice way of putting this? Thanks
Proposed translations
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insatiable lust
If you don't like "energy lust" (I don't, but it was my first idea, along the lines of wanderlust), maybe "insatiable appetite for energy" will earn you a few more cents!
Reece's up-close assessment of a rapacious coal industry is a searing indictment of how a country's energy lust is ravaging the hills and hollows of ...
www.amazon.com/Lost-Mountain-Wilderness-Devastation-ofAppal...
Our energy lust appears to be insatiable. FatFreddy, solar panels aren't very energy efficient, but it's not true that they cost energy then they produce. ...
www.hipforums.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-181147.html
Climate Change and our insatiable appetite for energy. Climate Change: Arctic meltdown 1979 - 2003. Summer ice coverage of Arctic Polar Region ...
www2.env.uea.ac.uk/cred/park_lane_2.ppt
has ever commanded a remote control knows the unavoidable truth about this nation: Rolling blackouts or not, we have an insatiable appetite for energy. ...
www.mindfully.org/Energy/Energy-Use-Per-Person11feb01.htm
Our world has an insatiable appetite for energy. Demand is driven by population growth, economic growth and technological developments. ...
www.energy-choices.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=vi...
to satisfy completely our seemingly insatiable appetite for energy at low cost. But now is not the time to retreat into wishful thinking.’ ...
energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressReleases.Detail&PressRelease_id=226356&Month=9...
How can India's galloping economic growth and insatiable appetite for energy be balanced with environmental security? ...
www.infochangeindia.org/agenda.jsp
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ATTENTION, CULTURAL DIFFERENCE
Of course bulimia is the same thing in any country, but the cultural connotations are different. Maybe because we Brits drink vast quantities of beer and bring it all up again at some stage, we are more "comfortable" with the idea of vomiting than the French, and this is reflected in our acception of "bulimia" where we put at least equal stress on the vomiting. The French, on the contrary, seem to put the vomiting part in second place. As a result, to the French mind "boulimie" means "compulsive overeating" well before it means the associated vomiting. Some examples, drawn pretty randomly, I feel:
Boulimie. besoin d'absorber une grande quantété d'aliments. Bradyzoïte. forme végétative d'un Apicomplexa ...
arachosia.univ-lille2.fr/labos/parasito/Internat/courspar/glossai.html
Boulimie: La boulimie est un trouble de l'alimentation caractérisé par des accès d'ingestion ...
www.futura-sciences.com/comprendre/g/lettre-B_8.php
Boulimie : littéralement "faim de bœuf ", faim excessive, ...
www.nutri-site.com/dossiers/glossaire.htm
Boulimie: Trouble associé à unproblème psychologique et caractérisé par l'ingestionde quantités anormalement élevées de nourriture, suiviede tentatives de se faire vomir http://www.cegepat.qc.ca/teducphys/glossaire.html
Bulimia nervosa: Eating disorder with binging (overeating) and purging (vomiting). ...
www.wrongdiagnosis.com/e/eating_disorders/glossary.htm
Bulimia An eating disorder which is characterized by self-induced vomiting after eating. (3-09). Print Friendly ...
www.nationalguidelines.org/glossary.cfm
Bulimia Nervosa: People with this eating disorder engage in binge eating and purging behaviors. ... spelling, etc., before including it in the glossary. ...
www.alleydog.com/glossary/definition.cfm?term=Bulimia Nervo...
bulimia An eating disorder characterized by repeated binge-and-purge bouts. ...
www.wwnorton.com/college/psych/gman5/glossary/B.htm
Hence my interpretation of "insatiable appetite" as compared to others' more "Anglo" (I feel) interpretation.
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Dictionary definitions:
boulimie - sensation de faim excessive, poussant à une consommation exagérée d'aliments [Larousse Lexis]
bulimia - 1. a continuous, abnormal hunger 2. bulimarexia
bulimarexia - an eating disorder, chiefly in young women, characterized by the gorging of large quantities of food followed by purging, as through self-induced vomiting. Cf anorexia nervosa
[Webster's]
Strictly speaking, then, and going by these dictionary definitions, boulimie/bulimia is confined to eating. And that is how I feel it is understood in French, especially in this case where it would be redundant to refer to "purging" since the preceding phrase introduces the notion of pollution.
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Note added at 2 hrs (2006-10-03 10:32:27 GMT)
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What is more, even in English, bulimia does not necessarily involve vomiting :
Bulimia is an obsession with food and weight characterized by repeated overeating binges followed by compensatory behavior, such as forced vomiting or excessive exercise. […]Bulimia is also termed bulimia nervosa and bulimarexia. […]Recurrent inappropriate compensatory behavior in order to prevent weight gain, such as self-induced vomiting, misuse of laxatives, diuretics, or enemas (purging type); or, through fasting or excessive exercise (nonpurging type).
http://www.gurze.com/client/client_pages/bulimia.cfm
Possibly the similarity of "bouli" with "boule " (round, ball-shaped) facilitates the association, in French, with overeating more than with purging.
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Note added at 5 hrs (2006-10-03 13:33:27 GMT)
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Note too this distinction between "bulimia/boulimie" and "binge eating disorder/hyperphagie boulimique" where the root "bouli" is still present in the French, reinforcing its association with eating alone rather than eating-and-vomiting.
L'hyperphagie boulimique ou "Binge eating disorder"
Tandis que la Boulimique [definition on same page] parvient à contrôler son poids tant bien que mal par le vomissement provoqué ou d'autres méthodes, l'hyperphage boulimique n'utilise pas de telles techniques et est donc la plupart du temps en surpoids
http://www.gros.org/pagesgros/tca.html#Ancrebn
Reece's up-close assessment of a rapacious coal industry is a searing indictment of how a country's energy lust is ravaging the hills and hollows of ...
www.amazon.com/Lost-Mountain-Wilderness-Devastation-ofAppal...
Our energy lust appears to be insatiable. FatFreddy, solar panels aren't very energy efficient, but it's not true that they cost energy then they produce. ...
www.hipforums.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-181147.html
Climate Change and our insatiable appetite for energy. Climate Change: Arctic meltdown 1979 - 2003. Summer ice coverage of Arctic Polar Region ...
www2.env.uea.ac.uk/cred/park_lane_2.ppt
has ever commanded a remote control knows the unavoidable truth about this nation: Rolling blackouts or not, we have an insatiable appetite for energy. ...
www.mindfully.org/Energy/Energy-Use-Per-Person11feb01.htm
Our world has an insatiable appetite for energy. Demand is driven by population growth, economic growth and technological developments. ...
www.energy-choices.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=vi...
to satisfy completely our seemingly insatiable appetite for energy at low cost. But now is not the time to retreat into wishful thinking.’ ...
energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressReleases.Detail&PressRelease_id=226356&Month=9...
How can India's galloping economic growth and insatiable appetite for energy be balanced with environmental security? ...
www.infochangeindia.org/agenda.jsp
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Note added at 2 hrs (2006-10-03 10:18:52 GMT)
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ATTENTION, CULTURAL DIFFERENCE
Of course bulimia is the same thing in any country, but the cultural connotations are different. Maybe because we Brits drink vast quantities of beer and bring it all up again at some stage, we are more "comfortable" with the idea of vomiting than the French, and this is reflected in our acception of "bulimia" where we put at least equal stress on the vomiting. The French, on the contrary, seem to put the vomiting part in second place. As a result, to the French mind "boulimie" means "compulsive overeating" well before it means the associated vomiting. Some examples, drawn pretty randomly, I feel:
Boulimie. besoin d'absorber une grande quantété d'aliments. Bradyzoïte. forme végétative d'un Apicomplexa ...
arachosia.univ-lille2.fr/labos/parasito/Internat/courspar/glossai.html
Boulimie: La boulimie est un trouble de l'alimentation caractérisé par des accès d'ingestion ...
www.futura-sciences.com/comprendre/g/lettre-B_8.php
Boulimie : littéralement "faim de bœuf ", faim excessive, ...
www.nutri-site.com/dossiers/glossaire.htm
Boulimie: Trouble associé à unproblème psychologique et caractérisé par l'ingestionde quantités anormalement élevées de nourriture, suiviede tentatives de se faire vomir http://www.cegepat.qc.ca/teducphys/glossaire.html
Bulimia nervosa: Eating disorder with binging (overeating) and purging (vomiting). ...
www.wrongdiagnosis.com/e/eating_disorders/glossary.htm
Bulimia An eating disorder which is characterized by self-induced vomiting after eating. (3-09). Print Friendly ...
www.nationalguidelines.org/glossary.cfm
Bulimia Nervosa: People with this eating disorder engage in binge eating and purging behaviors. ... spelling, etc., before including it in the glossary. ...
www.alleydog.com/glossary/definition.cfm?term=Bulimia Nervo...
bulimia An eating disorder characterized by repeated binge-and-purge bouts. ...
www.wwnorton.com/college/psych/gman5/glossary/B.htm
Hence my interpretation of "insatiable appetite" as compared to others' more "Anglo" (I feel) interpretation.
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Note added at 2 hrs (2006-10-03 10:25:45 GMT)
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Dictionary definitions:
boulimie - sensation de faim excessive, poussant à une consommation exagérée d'aliments [Larousse Lexis]
bulimia - 1. a continuous, abnormal hunger 2. bulimarexia
bulimarexia - an eating disorder, chiefly in young women, characterized by the gorging of large quantities of food followed by purging, as through self-induced vomiting. Cf anorexia nervosa
[Webster's]
Strictly speaking, then, and going by these dictionary definitions, boulimie/bulimia is confined to eating. And that is how I feel it is understood in French, especially in this case where it would be redundant to refer to "purging" since the preceding phrase introduces the notion of pollution.
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Note added at 2 hrs (2006-10-03 10:32:27 GMT)
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What is more, even in English, bulimia does not necessarily involve vomiting :
Bulimia is an obsession with food and weight characterized by repeated overeating binges followed by compensatory behavior, such as forced vomiting or excessive exercise. […]Bulimia is also termed bulimia nervosa and bulimarexia. […]Recurrent inappropriate compensatory behavior in order to prevent weight gain, such as self-induced vomiting, misuse of laxatives, diuretics, or enemas (purging type); or, through fasting or excessive exercise (nonpurging type).
http://www.gurze.com/client/client_pages/bulimia.cfm
Possibly the similarity of "bouli" with "boule " (round, ball-shaped) facilitates the association, in French, with overeating more than with purging.
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Note added at 5 hrs (2006-10-03 13:33:27 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------
Note too this distinction between "bulimia/boulimie" and "binge eating disorder/hyperphagie boulimique" where the root "bouli" is still present in the French, reinforcing its association with eating alone rather than eating-and-vomiting.
L'hyperphagie boulimique ou "Binge eating disorder"
Tandis que la Boulimique [definition on same page] parvient à contrôler son poids tant bien que mal par le vomissement provoqué ou d'autres méthodes, l'hyperphage boulimique n'utilise pas de telles techniques et est donc la plupart du temps en surpoids
http://www.gros.org/pagesgros/tca.html#Ancrebn
Peer comment(s):
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Julie Barber
: maybe it secretly means l’Amérique bouboule
3 heures
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?? You've lost me, I'm afraid. Regardless of that, there is nothing secret about it. I simply feel that "bulimia" and "boulimie" do not have the same "socio-cultural" acceptation.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Wow, so many references! Thanks for all your help."
41 minutes
compulsive craving for energy
I am trying to get across the idea of lack of control implicit in the word "boulimie".
+2
49 minutes
Julie Barber
Royaume-Uni
Royaume-Uni
Native in anglais
Royaume-Uni
Chartered Business/Legal/Social Sciences
Native in: anglais
Works in: français vers anglais
Related KudoZ points
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4
fenzied energy consumption and the ensuing pollution
due to fenzied energy consumption and (the) ensuing pollution, a by-product of their economic models
I do think more literal would be OK though...
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frenzied even, sorry !!
I do think more literal would be OK though...
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Note added at 51 mins (2006-10-03 08:55:45 GMT)
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frenzied even, sorry !!
Peer comment(s):
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Claire Cox
: Like you, I quite like the literal approach: "energy bulimia" gives an immediate impression of countries gobbling up the energy then spewing it out again. Quite neat really!
21 minutes
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thanks Claire
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Marc Glinert
: Hi Julie, frenzied maybe?!
2 jours 22 heures
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1 heure
Jonathan MacKerron
Native in anglais
Retired as of Jan 2019!
Native in: anglais
Works in: allemand vers anglais, français vers anglais
Related KudoZ points
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21
energy junkies
???
1 heure
binge-purge energy consumption cycle
Just a suggestion piggy-backing on Alison's comment to Francis Marc, but I like the idea of keeping the bulimic image intact.
If you want you can emphasize the unhealthy aspect of this binge-purge idea:
unhealthy/frenzied/insatiable/rabid binge-purge energy consumption cycle of their economic model
I like rabid but that's maybe putting too much of my own opinion in there!
If you want you can emphasize the unhealthy aspect of this binge-purge idea:
unhealthy/frenzied/insatiable/rabid binge-purge energy consumption cycle of their economic model
I like rabid but that's maybe putting too much of my own opinion in there!
+1
1 heure
bulimic demand for energy / bulimic energy consumption
I think bulimic correctly expresses the lack of control and the element of sickness... found this
"Both Kerry and Bush recognise the need for alternatives to fossil fuels. Yet neither show any desire to address the US’s bulimic consumption patterns. By Melanie Jarman"
"Both Kerry and Bush recognise the need for alternatives to fossil fuels. Yet neither show any desire to address the US’s bulimic consumption patterns. By Melanie Jarman"
3 minutes
energy crave
... puppet regimes that observe "our values and way of life" merely by keeping the petrol pipes flowing to ease our consumerist energy crave - the bad guys ...
www.new-business.ro/ro/numarul3/english/78/ - 18k - Résultat complémentaire
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ot "energy craving":
The Jamestown Foundation - [ Traduire cette page ]The Chinese economy requires these resources for its industries and energy craving cities on the east coast , so it will brook no interruptions . ...
jamestown.org/email-to-friend.php?article_id=2369849 - 25k - Résultat complémentaire - En cache - Pages similaires
Townhall.com::Exorcising the Demons of Chernobyl::By Michael Fumento - [ Traduire cette page ]Why would an energy-craving nation (the US) that also demands a pristine environment put the kibosh on a limitless form of power (nuclear energy) that ...
townhall.com/columnists/MichaelFumento/2005/09/15/exorcising_the_demons_of_chernobyl - 136k
www.new-business.ro/ro/numarul3/english/78/ - 18k - Résultat complémentaire
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ot "energy craving":
The Jamestown Foundation - [ Traduire cette page ]The Chinese economy requires these resources for its industries and energy craving cities on the east coast , so it will brook no interruptions . ...
jamestown.org/email-to-friend.php?article_id=2369849 - 25k - Résultat complémentaire - En cache - Pages similaires
Townhall.com::Exorcising the Demons of Chernobyl::By Michael Fumento - [ Traduire cette page ]Why would an energy-craving nation (the US) that also demands a pristine environment put the kibosh on a limitless form of power (nuclear energy) that ...
townhall.com/columnists/MichaelFumento/2005/09/15/exorcising_the_demons_of_chernobyl - 136k
Peer comment(s):
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Assimina Vavoula
4 minutes
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| disagree |
Alison Jenner
: "crave" cannot be used as a noun, it's a verb. The noun would be "craving", but this does not get across the "binge-purge" idea of "boulimie"
25 minutes
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