Glossary entry

français term or phrase:

sole de petite peche

anglais translation:

coastal sole

Added to glossary by French Foodie
Apr 28, 2005 11:47
19 yrs ago
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français term

sole de petite peche

français vers anglais Art / Littérature Cuisine / culinaire menu
This is on the menu of a very old, prestigious Paris restaurant, and I am having trouble finding a succinct, elegant way of putting this. I know they are trying to conjure up picturesque images of tiny, colourful boats off the shore of some little fishing village so that people will be willing to pay 80 euros a plate for their meal being caught this way... "Small-scale" sounds too business-like "artisanally caught fish" is on EU sites, but sounds odd to me on a menu. I was thinking of "locally caught" but I am not sure that this is the case. It could be artisanally caught but not local...
sigh.
Any ideas would be grately appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Mara

Discussion

Kate Hudson (X) Apr 28, 2005:
Well then I would opt for traditionally caught sole if you've already used up the line-caught option on the previous (f)dish! That conjures up the rowing boat with granpa in sou'wester rather like the Captain Birdseye ad.
Non-ProZ.com Apr 28, 2005:
that's just it, mactrad, I understand petite peche also to be "inshore" fishing, but sole is always caught inshore! So it's rather silly to be putting this on the menu, but as I said it's to conjure up a quaint image for the Parisians. Like how they put dirt on the carrots and potatoes in the markets so they look like they were just uprooted, thrown in the back of a market-garden truck and taken to the big city :-)
I also like the sound of fresh-caught, but again that seems as redundant as petite peche. Would they serve fish that wasn't fresh?? Maybe I am just thinking about this too much...
Kate, this is becoming a pattern with us, hee hee. I have "bar de ligne" just above (line-caught sea bass) so I need to opt for something different here.

Proposed translations

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sole from coastal fisheries

unlikely to be 'locally caught' in Paris...
'petite pêche' is coastal fishing, as opposed to 'la grande pêche' which is deep sea.
I should think that sole is a coastal fish,and not found offshore, so it's a bit pointless talking about 'petite pêche' but it sounds good.
'petite pêche' is linked to tides, ie short fishing campaigns, could say 'fresh from the last tide'

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Note added at 1 hr 12 mins (2005-04-28 12:59:56 GMT)
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coastal sole (sounds like a R&B group)
filet o\' sole (aye cap\'n)
sole lives on the seabed: seabed sole (bedridden sole, heh!)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "I went with coastal sole - also found it on some other reputable menus. I agree it is redundant, but I don't think the French are trying to be logical with this - they want it to be appetising. Thanks to everyone for your great suggestions."
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15 minutes

traditionally caught sole

Perhaps?
Peer comment(s):

agree Rachel Davenport : I have to go along with this one. It obviously means 'as opposed to industrial'. It sounds odd, but I think it's as near as you'll get.
21 minutes
neutral Graham macLachlan : 'petite pêche' can be industrial
27 minutes
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16 minutes

fresh-caught sole

fresh-caught sole, the old-fashioned way.

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Note added at 20 mins (2005-04-28 12:08:20 GMT)
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Actually, old-fashioned here seems to refer to the sole and not the way it\'s caught, so it would probably need re-wording:

Sole caught the old-fashion way.
Peer comment(s):

agree Graham macLachlan : fresh-caught
26 minutes
agree Aisha Maniar
1 heure
agree emiledgar
5 heures
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42 minutes

line-caught sole

the traditional method of catching sole is to use a line, not a net. Lots of Google hits too!
Peer comment(s):

agree Pat Jenner (X)
1 heure
Thanks
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