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espace attente sécurisé

anglais translation: refuge area

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Terme ou expression en français :espace attente sécurisé
Traduction en anglais :refuge area
Entrée par  : Tony M

15:46 Dec 7, 2019
traduction français vers anglais [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Construction / génie civil
Terme ou expression en français : espace attente sécurisé
In-depth technical analysis of an urban commercial property, including a shop on the ground floor.

I was slightly wrong-footed to begin with, thinking that "attente" might mean "awaiting / standby connection". However the presence of the acronym PMR in the second example below gave the game away: these appear to be places where people can shelter, whilst awaiting help/rescue of some kind.

"Modification du cloisonnement des paliers des plateaux des bureaux étant aussi utilisées comme espaces d’attente sécurisé et modification des niveaux de plancher."

"De plus, il existe 4 espaces attentes sécurisés PMR dans le volume espace de vente réparties sur tous les niveaux."

"Installations « Bâtiment » (SSI, Intrusion, Alarmes techniques, Interphonie EAS) sont en bon état et conformes."

The acronym EAS also appears a couple of times, obviously referring to these spaces.

"Des diffuseurs lumineux sont aussi mis en place dans les EAS."

"Un système d’interphonie existe au niveau des différents EAS du commerce."

Thing is, I've never heard of such a "safe waiting space" in a UK shop. I did a bit of searching but nothing helpful turned up.
Mpoma
Royaume-Uni
Local time: 08:14
safe waiting area
Explication :
I've never come across an equivalent term used in EN either — but maybe B.D.Finch has?

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Note added at 738 days (2021-12-15 08:58:09 GMT) Post-grading
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Coming back and looking further into this, I found this UK reference:
https://www.eufireandsecurity.com/product/everlux-refuge-poi...

where it appears to be officially referred to as a 'refuge area'
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Tony M
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Résumé des réponses proposées
3 +1area of refuge
Marco Solinas
3 +1temporary waiting space
Ph_B (X)
3 +1fire-rated safe haven
SafeTex
2 +2safe waiting area
Tony M


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1 heure   confiance : Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 approbation des pairs (net) : +1
area of refuge


Explication :
This seems like a viable option: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_of_refuge

Marco Solinas
Local time: 00:14
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Langue maternelle : anglais, italien
Points PRO dans la catégorie : 88

Commentaires des pairs sur cette réponse (et réponses des répondeurs)
Accord  Ph_B (X): "refuge" is used in some of the sources I've used in my answer.
28 minutes
Neutre  Daryo: yes and no - if you get in a "refuge" you are supposed to be safe enough in there to stay there - here it's not THAT safe - it's where they wait to be escorted out of the danger zone.
2 heures
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1 heure   confiance : Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 approbation des pairs (net) : +1
temporary waiting space


Explication :

Temporary Waiting Spaces (Refuge Space)
A temporary waiting space is an area that provides a space to accommodate physically impaired persons (or any other impaired person) who are unable to independently negotiate stairs in the event of an evacuation. Where persons are located within a refuge space, it may not be necessary to immediately evacuate.
https://www.ed.ac.uk/health-safety/fire-safety/fire-safety-p...

[Should be leaving] Last after using a temporary waiting space (aka refuge) as their descent will be slow and to go first will cause a log jam, pushing, trips, etc as the main flow builds up behind them.
https://www.safelincs-forum.co.uk/topic/5383-peep/

Emergency Evacuation Planning for Your Workplace: From Chaos ...
https://books.google.fr › books - Traduire cette page
Jim Burtles, KLJ, CMLJ, FBCI, ‎Kristen Noakes-Fry, ABCI - 2014 - ‎Technology & Engineering
Such a temporary waiting space (often described as a refuge) is an area that is separated from a fire by fire-resistant construction and provided with a safe exit ...

English appears to consider that sécurisé is implicit (so not used/ translated), but adds "temporary". Cultural thing? See these signs: https://www.google.com/search?q=temporary waiting space&tbm=...

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Note added at 4 hrs (2019-12-07 20:30:42 GMT)
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Last sentence should end with: "... which are similar to these French ones: https://www.google.com/search?q=espace attente sécurisé pann... "

Ph_B (X)
France
Local time: 09:14
Langue maternelle : français

Commentaires des pairs sur cette réponse (et réponses des répondeurs)
Accord  Michael Confais (X)
3 jours 16 heures
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10 heures   confiance : Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 approbation des pairs (net) : +1
fire-rated safe haven


Explication :
Given as an alternative to "area of refuge" in the reference which has both terms in fact


    https://www.unitedspinal.org/pdf/WheelchairFireSafety.pdf
SafeTex
France
Local time: 09:14
Langue maternelle : anglais
Points PRO dans la catégorie : 39

Commentaires des pairs sur cette réponse (et réponses des répondeurs)
Accord  GILLES MEUNIER
8 heures
  -> Thanks Gilou
Neutre  Tony M: It may not be only about fire; and also, it is not to be regarded as a 'safe haven' — at least, not for very long!
11 heures
Neutre  Yvonne Gallagher: no, with Tony's comments
12 heures
  -> It's what the pdf said although that does not make it right. But I doubt the area is flood, bomb etc. proof.
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13 minutes   confiance : Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 approbation des pairs (net) : +2
safe waiting area


Explication :
I've never come across an equivalent term used in EN either — but maybe B.D.Finch has?

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Note added at 738 days (2021-12-15 08:58:09 GMT) Post-grading
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Coming back and looking further into this, I found this UK reference:
https://www.eufireandsecurity.com/product/everlux-refuge-poi...

where it appears to be officially referred to as a 'refuge area'

Tony M
France
Local time: 09:14
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Langue maternelle : anglais
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Commentaires des pairs sur cette réponse (et réponses des répondeurs)
Accord  Daryo: makes sense
3 heures
  -> Thanks, Daryo!
Accord  Yvonne Gallagher
4 heures
  -> Thanks, Yvonne!
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