Kw (Hs)

English translation: kW (gross); kW (Hs)

18:01 Jan 25, 2010
French to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Energy / Power Generation
French term or phrase: Kw (Hs)
"appareils de chauffage (ayant une puissance calorifique maximum de 3kW (Hs) et utilisables exclusivement en plein air)"

Context is (for instance) EN 417. I would have guessed kilowatt hours but this makes no sense to me as an expression of heat power. Any definitive reference to an explanation welcome!
David BUICK
Local time: 23:17
English translation:kW (gross); kW (Hs)
Explanation:
It's gross heating power, and "s" is actually a subscript.
For net power, the notation is "Hi".
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Anton Konashenok
Czech Republic
Local time: 23:17
Grading comment
Thanks to all for the many instructive comments. Almost Bourth persuadeth me with HHV... but then again perhaps GCV... given the apparent lack of consensus between "higher", "gross", "heat(ing)", "calorific", the relative value and scope of my text, the apparent existence of (Hs) in original English-language documents, I'm sticking with it and awarding the points here because of the very clear explanation. Thanks also to Chris for spotting the capitalisation problem in the question and the learned discussion thereof. No glossary entry 'cos I think the discussion is worth reading and some heating guru may be able to cut this Gordian knot...
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Summary of answers provided
5kW (Hs)
FrenchPhD
4 +1kW(HHV)
Bourth (X)
4Kw (Hs)
Ana Resende
4kW (gross); kW (Hs)
Anton Konashenok


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Kw (Hs)


Explanation:
Maybe this helps (see calorific power): http://www.thermexcel.com/english/ressourc/fuelgas.htm

Ana Resende
Brazil
Local time: 18:17
Native speaker of: Portuguese

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Jennifer Levey: Your web-ref uses 'NCV/GCV', not 'Hs/--' - do these refer to the same quantity?
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kW (gross); kW (Hs)


Explanation:
It's gross heating power, and "s" is actually a subscript.
For net power, the notation is "Hi".


Anton Konashenok
Czech Republic
Local time: 23:17
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 20
Grading comment
Thanks to all for the many instructive comments. Almost Bourth persuadeth me with HHV... but then again perhaps GCV... given the apparent lack of consensus between "higher", "gross", "heat(ing)", "calorific", the relative value and scope of my text, the apparent existence of (Hs) in original English-language documents, I'm sticking with it and awarding the points here because of the very clear explanation. Thanks also to Chris for spotting the capitalisation problem in the question and the learned discussion thereof. No glossary entry 'cos I think the discussion is worth reading and some heating guru may be able to cut this Gordian knot...

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Jennifer Levey: Can you tell us what the subscripts 's' and 'i' stand for? I fail to see, for example, how 's' equates to 'gross'.
12 mins
  -> I am not 100% sure, but most likely, "S" stands for "supérieur", and "I" for "inférieur", denoting the higher (gross) and lower (net) calorific values of the fuel; gross heating power and net heating power are respectively proportional to these two.
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kW (Hs)


Explanation:
The watt is the SI unit for power, the rate at which energy is used. Its symbol is the capital W. Kilo is the prefix for thousands, with a lower case k symbol, so we have kW as a unit for the power of the heater, the rate at which it converts energy to heat.

Total power used must be multiplied by a time, for example each hour (h). The analogy is going 100 km/h for 3 hours gives you 300 km/h /h or 300 km. The kWh is the standard unit for energy in heating applications.

But here the heater works with gas and there is a standard way to measure its heat released when burnt at 15 degrees, where Hs is the symbol for the gross calorific value.

There is some similarity to the other answers but it is not certain what they mean if they don't explain their symbols with references.



    Reference: http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/residential/personal/appliances/appli...
    Reference: http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:YGqa0FS9acwJ:labnet.dgc....
FrenchPhD
Canada
Local time: 17:17
Native speaker of: English
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
kW(HHV)


Explanation:
Higher heating value. Haven't looked yet to see if this is how it is expressed in English.

"Hs" seems to be predominantly Swiss and Belgian notation from what I've seen so far.

LA CHAUDIÈRE À CONDENSATION À GAZ: UNE CONTRIBUTION À LA PROTECTION DE ... tandis que son POUVOIR CALORIFIQUE SUPÉRIEUR (Hs) est de 11,4 kWh/Nm3. En conséquence, la chaleur de .... à gaz en fonction de la charge et de la température extérieure ... Avec la nouvelle génération de chaudières, la puissance de chauffage ...
www.docstoc.com/.../LA-CHAUDIÈRE-À-CONDENSATION-À-GAZ-UNE-CONTRIBUTION-À

La technique de la condensation utilise la différence d'énergie entre le pouvoir calorifique inférieur Hi et le POUVOIR CALORIFIQUE SUPÉRIEURE Hs par ...
www.gaz-naturel.ch/.../comparaisons-des-agents-energetiques...

1. File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
Hi = Pouvoir calorifique inférieur (PCI) - Hs = POUVOIR CALORIFIQUE SUPÉRIEUR (PCS). Le fonctionnement correct des radiants impose un renouvellement de 1 m ...
www.progatec.ch/.../XLA - Notice technique radiants Elevage...

le rendement est exprimé en fonction du pouvoir calorifique Hi d'un combustible, ... on obtient le POUVOIR CALORIFIQUE SUPÉRIEUR Hs. Dans cette optique, ...
www.frais-de-chauffage.be/condensation.htm


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Note added at 2 hrs (2010-01-25 20:54:37 GMT)
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468 ghits for "kW (HHV)". Not a lot.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2010-01-25 20:57:34 GMT)
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I was about to say that a search for "higher heating value" with "Hs" produced only cases where "H.S." were the initials of the authors or where "HS" refers to the enthalpy of steam.

Then I found this:

Hs = higher heating value (HHV) [MJ/Nm. 3. ] d = relative density compared to air [-]. The boundaries within which the Wobbe number must lie for common rich ...
www.mech.kuleuven.be/energy/resources/docs/.../WP EN2006-00...

It's Belgian.

Bourth (X)
Local time: 23:17
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 472

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Johannes Gleim: Mais le seul lien qui fonctionne est www.frais-de-chauffage.be/condensation.htm
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