société circulée
anglais translation: operator of motorway(s) used
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| 10:47 Nov 30, 2016 |
| traduction français vers anglais [PRO] Bus/Financial - Ordinateurs (général) / Electronic Toll Service | |||||||
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|  Réponse sélectionnée de : B D Finch France Local time: 14:51 | ||||||
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| 4 | operator of motorway(s) used |
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| 4 -1 | toll charging company |
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1 heure confiance : 
approbation des pairs (net) : -1
approbation des pairs (net) : -1toll charging company Explication : See link below of bilingual document on the toll system (Tolled infrastructures Les infrastructures à péage - Asecap) FRENCH "Les systèmes techniques sont en phase avec les normes fi xées par la Directive Européenne et peuvent accueillir les badges répondant aux mêmes normes émis dans d’autres pays ; • Un contexte contractuel novateur a été créé. En effet, dans le cadre du service de télépéage des poids lourds, les fonctions de prestataires de service autoroutier (sociétés « circulées » et donc en charge des aspects techniques) et de commercialisation du service interopérable (sociétés « émettrice s» des contrats) sont séparées. Les abonnements, au sens de programmes de réduction, sont toujours souscrits auprès des sociétés circulées, les émetteurs n’intervenant alors que comme distributeurs de contrats auxquels ils ne sont pas eux-mêmes partie, ces contrats d’abonnement étant signés par le client et une société circulée, à la différence du contrat pour le service interopérable qui est bien signé directement entre le client et la société émettrice." ENGLISH The technical systems are in line with the standards set by the European Directive and can accept tags conforming to the same standards issued in other countries; • An innovative contractual framework has been set up. In fact, in the framework of electronic toll collection for HGVs, the functions of motorway service providers (toll charging companies responsible for the technical side) are kept separate from the commercialisation of the interoperable service (done by the companies issuing the contracts). Subscriptions, tending to be discount packages, are always taken out with the toll charging companies, while the distributing companies only act at the level of issuing contracts to which they are not themselves a party ; these subscriptions are signed by the client and a toll charger, in contrast with a contract for the interoperable service, which is always signed directly by the client and the issuing company. " -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 1 hr (2016-11-30 11:59:50 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- Note that the concession holding company (concession holder) is not necessarily the same as the one charging toll). -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 3 hrs (2016-11-30 14:38:35 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- ps Qualifying these companies as 'operators' would not be correct under CESARE IV (an old program that ended in 2009 so not current). In that program there was a 4 way split of roles for the companies and the operator roles and tool charging roles each separate. By the way, the asker his text does not show anywhere that this is a text related specifically to France. It looks more like a EU text, so valid for any EU country. Calling these companies 'operators' (as in the old situation which is referred to here) would therefore be too broad an interpretation. -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 4 hrs (2016-11-30 15:12:00 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- More details on what I stated here about the 4 roles under CERARE IV can be found in the document at url (page 3, 2nd paragraph, sorry, is secured so one cannot copy text): http://www.asecap.com/images/documents/PDF_Projects/CESAREIV... Référence : http://www.asecap.com/index.php?option=com_phocadownload&vie... |
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1 heure confiance :
operator of motorway(s) used Explication : Peter's research, which turned up the source document (puzzling and not terribly well translated), led me to this document: https://goo.gl/lnqcdn, which clarifies why the companies concerned are referred to as "sociétés circulées" here and why this term is far from redundant. They are the companies operating the particular motorway(s) used by the toll-paying HGVs concerned. So, while they are the companies that ultimately receive toll payments, under the new system they are not the ones that charge the tolls to the HGV companies as invoicing is now consolidated. 'Géré par une société concessionnaire d’autoroutes (SCA) dite “société circulée" ... 'Une facture papier par société concessionnaire d’autoroutes “circulée” (jusqu’ à 10 factures)' -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 2 hrs (2016-11-30 12:49:55 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- The text quoted above is taken from the description of the old, Caplis system. That way of doing things is replaced in the new TIS PL system by: 'Géré par une “société émettrice” agréée ... 'Une seule facture par pays, un seul prélèvement' -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 6 hrs (2016-11-30 17:02:51 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- The references below, show that my interpretation is correct. Though the English version translates "les sociétés circulées" as "transport facilitating companies", this does not seem to have caught on as a term used by anyone else, probably because it is too ambiguous. Though the French term is rather odd because the motorways are "circulées" rather than the companies having HVGs being driven through their head offices, it does seem clear now what it means and it's nice and concise. https://goo.gl/aFxYKl "les sociétés circulées (Concessionnaires d’Ouvrages à péage ou opérateurs) qui voient passer les véhicules et perçoivent leurs péages ;" https://goo.gl/XRZjx9 "transport facilitating companies (holders of toll structure concessions, or operators) that allow vehicles to pass and collect their tolls;" |
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