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Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

dont conclusions

English translation:

1 (service of: E&W) incl. Statement of Case 2 (sign-off) In Respect Whereof such are my submissions

Added to glossary by Sheena Currie
Dec 30, 2019 12:48
4 yrs ago
French term

dont conclusions

French to English Law/Patents Law (general) declaration of appeal
At the end of a declaration of appeal, being served on a respondent in a civil case, instead of the usual "dont acte" there is "dont conclusions". Has anyone come across this one before? How to render it? Submissions duly recorded/ formally noted ? Including submissions? Thanks to learned colleagues in advance!
Proposed translations (English)
3 +5 1 (service of: E&W) incl. Statement of Case 2 (sign-off) In Respect Whereof such are my submissions

Discussion

Daryo Jan 1, 2020:
Thanks for your correction this interpretation was my conclusion derived from how "dont conclusions" was used in about 10 legal documents - found using the right search syntax - THAT was my point. You can find relevant samples if you use the right search syntax (a bit more elaborated than just simply typing two or three words) -

I didn't suggest that it was the best possible. If I was sure that it's 100% correct, I would have put as my answer. I could spend an hour or two reading from beginning to end these 10 documents, and get a far more precise idea how and when "dont conclusions" is used, and from that context get a pretty good idea of the intended meaning, mais j'ai d'autre chat à fouetter.
AllegroTrans Dec 31, 2019:
@ Daryo "given these previously elaborated reasons, we arrived at the conclusions we are presenting" or "[these are] the conclusions we get from our arguments/line of reasoning" & similar.
Conclusions is a FAUX-AMI. LEARN IT!
Daryo Dec 31, 2019:
A ***rudimentary*** Google search will indeed yield nothing much useful.

Google makes available a quite elaborate syntax for defining what exactly you are searching for.

LEARN IT and use it the right way and you DO FIND "dont conclusions" used in a similar / VERY relevant context.

My first comment didn't come out of thin air ...
AllegroTrans Dec 30, 2019:
Asker What exactly do you mean by "declaration of appeal"? Is this the notice of appeal + grounds of appeal signed by the appellant?
philgoddard Dec 30, 2019:
A Google search doesn't find any uses of the phrase in the same context as yours, but my hunch is it means the same as "dont acte".
Sheena Currie (asker) Dec 30, 2019:
@Josephine: Nothing whatsoever follows it except the Clerk's signature! Please re-read the context already given,
Josephine Cassar Dec 30, 2019:
@ Asker What follows 'dont conclusions'? Or what comes before? Not just out of the blue please
Daryo Dec 30, 2019:
A quick preliminary search confirmed my hunch.

It's got nothing to do with "submission of this document".

It roughly means "given these previously elaborated reasons, we arrived at the conclusions we are presenting" or "[these are] the conclusions we get from our arguments/line of reasoning" & similar.

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=&as_epq=dont conclu...

Proposed translations

+5
2 hrs
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1 (service of: E&W) incl. Statement of Case 2 (sign-off) In Respect Whereof such are my submissions

Have come across this before, but I am unclear of the context 1. whether the clerk is a process-server of the 'submissions' on the Respondents 2. a law clerk at the Appellants' end serving a declaration = *notice of appeal* and having already signed off the Appeal Submissions.

In E&W. include address of the Barrister's etc. Chambers or Solicitors' firm and dated > the (case) law can change literally overnight. No date added means Fail the English Bar-Finals Legal-Drafting Exam paper.

PS Daryo's discussion entry weblinks are all contained withing subclauses and are not sign-offs e.g. Tout ceci est exposé, systématiquement, par A. Geissen, dont conclusions ne peuvent être que provisoires.

I actually think the Scots law compulsory sign-off of Defences & Amendments; In Respect Whereof works well in a drafter's and not a process-server's context: www.scotcourts.gov.uk/docs/default-source/scs---taking-acti...

Pleadings submitted since Lord Woolf's E&W Civil vs. Criminal Justice Reforms of 1998, are called a Statement of Case.

Confusingly, the name of the Affidavit sworn to any Schedule of Exhibits or List of Docs. is now called a 'Statement of Truth'.

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Note added at 3 hrs (2019-12-30 15:53:47 GMT)
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You are welcome! If there is time, just wait for a US American or Canadian-English legal drafting spin or 'backlash' on the matter.....
Example sentence:

the court may make an order that the claim will continue without any other statement of case.

As a Claimant in a claim, or a witness on behalf of the Claimant, the Court rules require various documents to be signed by a “Statement of Truth”.

Reference:

http://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/part16

http://www.truthlegal.com/statement-of-truth/

Note from asker:
Hello Adrian, Thank you so much for all this very helpful infoirmation. I'm so glad that you were on line as I always look for your answers!
Thank you, Adrian, for your advice. No time to wait (as usual these days!) but the proceedings are GB rather than US/CA type so I'm more than confident with your answer.
Peer comment(s):
agree philgoddard : I can't make head or tail of the first half of your answer, or of your explanation, but I agree with "In respect whereof such are my submissions".
2 hrs
Thanks. The first scenario assumes a form signed off by a process-server of the 'conclusions'.
agree AllegroTrans : such are my (individual) our (company etc.) submissions
3 hrs
Yes, cuts down the wordage. Thx.
agree erwan-l
18 hrs
Merci de nouveau and thanks de novo!
agree Ph_B (X) : In respect whereof such are my submissions
20 hrs
Thanks de novo et merci de nouveau!
agree Shabelula : I don't know this expression but I like this rendering!
1 day 3 hrs
Thanks, merci and grazie. There are in fact 'boilerplate' adherents who might not realise that, with a dearth of G/hits, credit is given at the UK Bar & Bench for original, creative and imaginative ENG legal drafting not lifted from manuals or precedents
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