Jul 24, 2018 12:01
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French term

laissés bruts de décoffrage

French to English Tech/Engineering Construction / Civil Engineering Contract for road construction
Parements simples
Les paremens seront laissés bruts de décoffrage. Les prescriptions de l'article 62.1.3 de la Spécification 65 sont complétées par ce qui suit

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ARTICLE 2: ASPECT ET CLASSEMENT DES PAREMENTS
La régularité de la texture et de la teinte des parements sera apprcéciée par référence à une plaque dé béton témoin, réalisée par l'entrerise lors des épreuves de convenance. Dans le cas des tabliers, il pourra s'agir du voussoir ou du plot d'éssai prévu par la Spécification E04 du présent STS.
Toutes les surfances coffrées visibles seront réalisées suivant les prescriptions des parements fins, à l'exécution des parties d'ouvrage prévues avec un parément ouvragé.
Les surfaces coffrées non vues suivront les règles applicables aux parement fins pour la précision dimensionnelle (article 62.1.3 de la Specification 65) et l'enrobage des aciers. Pour la planéité et la texture, les surfaces coffrées au contact des terres suivront les règles applicables aux parement simples (article 62.1.2 du F65); les autres surfaces coffrées non vues suivront les règles applicables aux parement fins (article 62.1.3 du F65)

Parements simples
Les paremens seront laissés bruts de décoffrage. Les prescriptions de l'article 62.1.3 de la Spécification 65 sont complétées par ce qui suit

Discussion

B D Finch Jul 30, 2018:
Correction The following note was left under my pillow by the Tooth Fairy, to whose greater wisdom and experience I must defer:

"I'm not convinced by your "left fair-faced" ...

"The usual term for "brut de décoffrage" is "as-struck", i.e. immediately after the forms are struck (removed - from the good ol' bad ol' days when they had to be whacked with a sledgehammer to detach them (wooden forms) from the concrete). It DOES usually mean "rough", but with modern forms that need not be the case, and concrete cast in fair-face forms with a liberal dosing of release agent will be fine-face as-struck. If specs call for concrete to be as-struck, further finishing is either not requested (not visible, generally) or not required (because the forms give the required finish)."

Unfortunately, tooth fairies (though generally paragons of patience) are occasionally given to fits of exasperation with foolishness. This can lead them to post ironic or (when really provoked) sarcastic comments and, as a result, they can't directly post answers.
Tony M Jul 25, 2018:
@ Daryo 'unfinished' really means 'not having had any specific finish applied to it', which is what you get with cast concrete that receives no further treatment; of course, as you say, depending on the type of shuttering used, it may still have quite a smooth surface anyway.
Note that they start off talking about 'non-visible' areas...
Daryo Jul 25, 2018:
don't know the trade term in EN but more accurately if means:

"left as it is/without any further work being done on it"

so it in fact it IS "finished" and depending of what kind of "coffrage" [and concrete mix] is used , the surface could in fact be nicely smooth, or really looking "finished".

if the visual appearance of the concrete "laissé brut de décoffrage" is deemed to be of no importance, then it could be left looking really "rough and unfinished", but that's not always the case.

"La régularité de la texture et de la teinte des parements ..." would suggest that in this ST the Client do care about the visual aspect, so they probably wouldn't like it looking "rough and unfinished".
philgoddard Jul 24, 2018:
I think it just means rough or unfinished.

Proposed translations

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French term (edited): laissés bruts de décoffrage

shall remain rough (as is) after removal of formwork

"Rough" (as is = tel quel), which means "sans ponçage ni revêtement".

"Décoffrage : Opération consistant à enlever le coffrage d'un ouvrage en béton."

http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/décoffrage

Removal/stripping of formwork = décoffrage
Peer comment(s):

neutral Tony M : A bit too wordy, really, and it's really 'shall be left...'; 'rough as cast' or one of several synonyms is really all it needs; no need to be so literal with 'de coffrage' — it's a standard term in the business.
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disagree Daryo : that's an attempt at explanation BUT I very much doubt that it's the "trade term" - which is what is needed here, not explanations for outsiders to the trade // + depending on the "coffrage" used, the surface could in fact be nice and smooth!!
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left fair-faced

https://www.keim.com.au/mineral-concrete-stain.html
By definition, fair faced concrete is one which after the removal of form work is not required to have any further finishes on it like plastering etc


https://books.google.fr/books?isbn=1861899335
Adrian Forty - 2013 - ‎Architecture
TE ND RA CONCRETE photographs well, making it, as some of the ... And if the concrete is to be left fair-faced, the pattern or finish of the formwork at the ...


https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/How-it.../Question1138706.ht...

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31 mai 2012 - You would use ordinary dense concrete blocks. ... I forgot to say the blocks should be dense concrete blocks if left fair faced but if rendered you ...

https://www.editions-eyrolles.com/Dico-BTP/definition.html?i...
BETON - brut de décoffrage - n.m. :
[Arch. - B.A.P.] Béton conservé tel qu'il apparaît au décoffrage, dont l'aspect doit être particulièrement soigné. Syn. Béton apparent.

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