Dec 19, 2008 19:18
15 yrs ago
Portuguese term
estancieiro
Portuguese to English
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Livestock / Animal Husbandry
We are translating a historical Brazilian book which utilises the term "estancieiro". We don't like the word rancher as a translation and are searching for something better. The word can be seen in its original context in the following sentence: Ela era filha de um rico estancieiro que vivia nas imediações.
Proposed translations
(English)
References
Estancia | Christina Paiva |
Proposed translations
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large landholder
This is one solution that we used to use at the Organization of American States. 16,400 references. Presumably they "do" something on these vast landholdings - i.e. ranching.
Note that "rancher" can imply huge landholdings - look at the King Ranch in Texas (825,000 acres, 24,000 km2). Unfortunately, "large rancher" refers to a large ranch-style home.
Examples of "large landholder":
LARGE LANDHOLDER DEAD.; Earl Howe Had 33700 Acres -- An Ancestor ...
LONDON, Sept. 26.-Earl Howe (Richard William Penn Curzon-Howe) is dead. He was the third Earl, and had been Lord Lieutenant of Leicestershire since 1888. ...
query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=FB0B12FD3C5B11738DDDAE0A94D1405B808C
Nov 2, 2007 ... In 1784 George Washington, famous Indian fighter, large landholder and slave owner, advised the Continental Congress that it would be ...
fusilier.wordpress.com/2007/11/02/washington-indian-fighter-large-landholder-slave-owner/ -
Large landholder moves to protect development rights. By DINAH VOYLES PULVER Environment Writer. It's the 57000-acre question: What does the future hold for ...
www.news-journalonline.com/special/miamicorp/newEAST0110080...
involved in activities to denounce the large-landholder system and in favour of agrarian reform. In honour of the 19 landless people ...
www.landaction.org/display.php?article=77
A large-landholder model was promoted by modernising large landowners. A medium- landholder model was advanced by promoters of European immigration and urban ...
journals.cambridge.org/abstract_S0022216X98005082
THE LARGE LANDHOLDER PATRON SUPPLIED A PROTECTED, SELF-SUFFICIENT VILLAGE, SUPPORTED THE CHURCH, AND PROVIDED THE NECESSITIES OF LIFE FOR HIS PEONS. ...
eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/recordDetail?accno=ED013150
Note that "rancher" can imply huge landholdings - look at the King Ranch in Texas (825,000 acres, 24,000 km2). Unfortunately, "large rancher" refers to a large ranch-style home.
Examples of "large landholder":
LARGE LANDHOLDER DEAD.; Earl Howe Had 33700 Acres -- An Ancestor ...
LONDON, Sept. 26.-Earl Howe (Richard William Penn Curzon-Howe) is dead. He was the third Earl, and had been Lord Lieutenant of Leicestershire since 1888. ...
query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=FB0B12FD3C5B11738DDDAE0A94D1405B808C
Nov 2, 2007 ... In 1784 George Washington, famous Indian fighter, large landholder and slave owner, advised the Continental Congress that it would be ...
fusilier.wordpress.com/2007/11/02/washington-indian-fighter-large-landholder-slave-owner/ -
Large landholder moves to protect development rights. By DINAH VOYLES PULVER Environment Writer. It's the 57000-acre question: What does the future hold for ...
www.news-journalonline.com/special/miamicorp/newEAST0110080...
involved in activities to denounce the large-landholder system and in favour of agrarian reform. In honour of the 19 landless people ...
www.landaction.org/display.php?article=77
A large-landholder model was promoted by modernising large landowners. A medium- landholder model was advanced by promoters of European immigration and urban ...
journals.cambridge.org/abstract_S0022216X98005082
THE LARGE LANDHOLDER PATRON SUPPLIED A PROTECTED, SELF-SUFFICIENT VILLAGE, SUPPORTED THE CHURCH, AND PROVIDED THE NECESSITIES OF LIFE FOR HIS PEONS. ...
eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/recordDetail?accno=ED013150
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "After a meeting with author, he has left the final choice up to us. Your answer most clearly represents the idea he is trying to express"
5 mins
farmer
:)
Note from asker:
I agree with the peer comment, estancieiro specifically relates to a large property owner |
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
Maria Eugenia Farre
: O problema de farmer é que passa a idéia de pequena propriedade ao contrário de estancieiro
3 mins
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há grandes e pequenas fazendas...
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5 mins
cattle raiser
Or land-owner
8 mins
cattle breeder
Sounds more aristocratic to me.
PDF] UNIVERSIDADE FEDERAL DO RIO GRANDE DO SUL FACULDADE DE CIÊNCIAS ... - [ Translate this page ]File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
who are basically beef cattle breeders and rely mainly on their families for ... family cattle breeders). The second type identified is mostly composed of ...
www.bibliotecadigital.ufrgs.br/da.php?nrb=000392935&loc=200...
PDF] UNIVERSIDADE FEDERAL DO RIO GRANDE DO SUL FACULDADE DE CIÊNCIAS ... - [ Translate this page ]File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
who are basically beef cattle breeders and rely mainly on their families for ... family cattle breeders). The second type identified is mostly composed of ...
www.bibliotecadigital.ufrgs.br/da.php?nrb=000392935&loc=200...
Note from asker:
This is ironic! The author of the book is a maths professor at that university! |
10 mins
landowner
Independently if he owns cattle, sheep, etc. But owns a lot of land.
18 hrs
livestock farmer
A suggestion.
Note from asker:
Thank you very much for your contribution. Boas festas |
2 days 15 hrs
rich cattlestock owner
I think it sounds good to use "she was the daughter of a rich cattle stock owner".
I think it is important that the reader knows that he owns cattle because it embeds the precise concept of what kind of farmer, what kind of landowner he is; cattle ranch owners have different challenges from say, sugar cane farmers, so it is important to keep this information. I am not a big fan of keeping the original word with inverted commas, because the reader is left with a sense of exotism (yes) but unclear about the meaning, unless of course the rest of the story provides an opportunity for clarification.
I think it is important that the reader knows that he owns cattle because it embeds the precise concept of what kind of farmer, what kind of landowner he is; cattle ranch owners have different challenges from say, sugar cane farmers, so it is important to keep this information. I am not a big fan of keeping the original word with inverted commas, because the reader is left with a sense of exotism (yes) but unclear about the meaning, unless of course the rest of the story provides an opportunity for clarification.
Note from asker:
Thank you very much for your contribution. Boas festas |
Reference comments
3 days 10 hrs
Reference:
Estancia
Random House Webster's Unabridged:
(in Spanish America) a landed estate or a cattle ranch.
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Note added at 6 days (2008-12-26 14:31:45 GMT) Post-grading
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You're welcome! Happy New Year!
(in Spanish America) a landed estate or a cattle ranch.
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Note added at 6 days (2008-12-26 14:31:45 GMT) Post-grading
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You're welcome! Happy New Year!
Note from asker:
Thank you very much for your contribution. Boas festas |
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