Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Arabic term or phrase:
مرجعية
English translation:
the Shia leadership body
Added to glossary by
Obie Khadra
Sep 8, 2014 12:03
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مرجعية
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وهذا, ونجد مرجعية سماحة أية الله العظمى السيد علي الحسيني السيستاني "مد ظله" ببرامجها ومشاريعها, هي النموذج الأمثل في هذا المضمار ...
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 | the Shia leadership body |
Fazal Abbas
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| 5 | Highest (top) shia authority/ supreme shia authority |
Ahmed Ghaly (X)
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Proposed translations
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the Shia leadership body
A marja' (مرجع) is the highest rank given to a Shia cleric, while the marjaiya (مرجعية) is a Shia religious body.
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Note added at 8 hrs (2014-09-08 20:26:47 GMT)
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I would translate مرجع ديني as "religious authority." It seems like each مرجع or has his own مرجعية, or clerical following. See the use of marja and marjaiya here:
http://books.google.com/books?id=_FVf4V4aXWgC&pg=PA230&lpg=P...
Also, note that (some?) marjas are also sometimes referred to as Grand Ayatollahs:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marja'
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Note added at 8 hrs (2014-09-08 20:28:44 GMT)
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There are also a lot of English sources that leave مرجع untranslated, italicizing "marja'"
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Note added at 8 hrs (2014-09-08 20:32:54 GMT)
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Actually, if you translate marja, you should write "supreme religious authority" or "highest religious authority" (as Ahmed mentioned) in order to distinguish marjas from lower-lever clergy.
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Note added at 8 hrs (2014-09-08 20:26:47 GMT)
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I would translate مرجع ديني as "religious authority." It seems like each مرجع or has his own مرجعية, or clerical following. See the use of marja and marjaiya here:
http://books.google.com/books?id=_FVf4V4aXWgC&pg=PA230&lpg=P...
Also, note that (some?) marjas are also sometimes referred to as Grand Ayatollahs:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marja'
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Note added at 8 hrs (2014-09-08 20:28:44 GMT)
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There are also a lot of English sources that leave مرجع untranslated, italicizing "marja'"
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Note added at 8 hrs (2014-09-08 20:32:54 GMT)
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Actually, if you translate marja, you should write "supreme religious authority" or "highest religious authority" (as Ahmed mentioned) in order to distinguish marjas from lower-lever clergy.
Reference:
Note from asker:
| Thank you dear Fazal How do you suggest to translate Marja' or "مرجع ديني" ? |
| Thank you dear for your help. Those title are pretty hard to translate as it's open to discussion. Just like "حجة الاسلام" and "أية الله". |
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Highest (top) shia authority/ supreme shia authority
Highest (top) shia authority/ supreme shia authority
http://ara.proz.com/kudoz/arabic_to_english/journalism/10719...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marja'
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Note added at 7 hrs (2014-09-08 19:56:05 GMT)
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العفو زميلي الفاضل،
ردي هو
Highest Religious (Shia) Cleric/ Supreme Religious (Shiite) Cleric
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/20/iraq-highest-sh...
وضعت كلمة
shia or Shiite
بين قوسين لأننا من الممكن أن نكتبها أو لا نكتبها
http://ara.proz.com/kudoz/arabic_to_english/journalism/10719...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marja'
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Note added at 7 hrs (2014-09-08 19:56:05 GMT)
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العفو زميلي الفاضل،
ردي هو
Highest Religious (Shia) Cleric/ Supreme Religious (Shiite) Cleric
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/20/iraq-highest-sh...
وضعت كلمة
shia or Shiite
بين قوسين لأننا من الممكن أن نكتبها أو لا نكتبها
Note from asker:
| Thanks Ahmed. So how would you translate "مرجع ديني"? |
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