el problema de los con techo

English translation: the (housing) problem of the \'non-homeless\'

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Spanish term or phrase:el problema de los con techo
English translation:the (housing) problem of the \'non-homeless\'
Entered by: María Eugenia Wachtendorff

20:19 May 8, 2023
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc. / Housing
Spanish term or phrase: el problema de los con techo
Esta forma de producir vivienda redujo considerablemente el déficit habitacional, pero colaboró a crear una periferia urbana segregada, sin equipamientos y plagada de viviendas pequeñas y de baja calidad constructiva. Esto fue el denominado “problema de los con techo”.

Hola, colegas. ¿Me ayudan a traducir esto al inglés, por favor? Un sutil toque de ironía vendría bien. Muchas gracias :)
María Eugenia Wachtendorff
Chile
Local time: 08:53
The (housing) problem of the 'non-homeless'
Explanation:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/288670121_The_housi...

The housing problem of the "non-homeless"
Abstract
Chilen (sic) social housing policy is considered a success. During the last fifteen years the massive housing production has managed to reduce housing deficit, and many Latin American governments are imitating it financing model. However, ....

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The original title of the above-paper is El problema de vivienda de los "con techo"
December 2004 · EURE. Revista latinoamericana de estudios urbano regionales
Alfredo RodríguezAna Sugranyes
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Jennifer Levey
Chile
Local time: 08:53
Grading comment
Thank you so much, Jennifer!
This is it, of course.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +4the problem of the poorly housed
patinba
4 +1The (housing) problem of the 'non-homeless'
Jennifer Levey
5"the downside of the roofed people"
Ana Jimenez H.
4the "non-homeless" issue
Laureano Brito
4The issue of the barely-housed
Andrew Bramhall
3the issue with the non-homeless/barely-non-homeless/
Alan Otero
3the problem with the "homed"
Ana Vozone
3Pernicious problem of the homed
Gabriel Ferrero
3the ill-housed problem
Adoración Bodoque Martínez
3the 'quickfix' housing problem
ormiston


Discussion entries: 8





  

Answers


14 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
The (housing) problem of the 'non-homeless'


Explanation:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/288670121_The_housi...

The housing problem of the "non-homeless"
Abstract
Chilen (sic) social housing policy is considered a success. During the last fifteen years the massive housing production has managed to reduce housing deficit, and many Latin American governments are imitating it financing model. However, ....

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Note added at 15 mins (2023-05-08 20:34:53 GMT)
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The original title of the above-paper is El problema de vivienda de los "con techo"
December 2004 · EURE. Revista latinoamericana de estudios urbano regionales
Alfredo RodríguezAna Sugranyes


Jennifer Levey
Chile
Local time: 08:53
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 27
Grading comment
Thank you so much, Jennifer!
This is it, of course.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Andrew Bramhall: Well done to the asker for selecting this answer and seeing through and rejecting Patinba's, along with the flawed logic of TC and AW and others in their misplaced validations of Patinba's well-intentioned but incorrect answer.
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17 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
the issue with the non-homeless/barely-non-homeless/


Explanation:
¿Qué te parece esto para ese toque de ironía que buscas? Just my two cents. :)

Alan Otero
Argentina
Local time: 09:53
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Jennifer Levey: The problem concerns the houses, not the people who live in them, as suggested by your translation.
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17 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
the "non-homeless" issue


Explanation:
My humble contribution
y como lo pidió ... solamente con ironía hay como entenderlo...

Laureano Brito
Brazil
Local time: 09:53
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Jennifer Levey: The problem concerns the houses, not the people who live in them, as suggested by your translation.
1 min
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23 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
the problem with the "homed"


Explanation:
Since you mentioned a little irony...

https://www.google.com/search?q=homed definition&oq=homed de...

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The irony (sadly) being that this term is often used with stray /shelter pets ...

Example sentence(s):
  • Knowing them can keep people living on the street safer. ... are not actually experiencing homelessness but instead are homed con artists.
  • Today, there are over 60,000 homeless people in NYC. ... that are homed that have the access to cook, utilize and serve food in the soup kitchens.
Ana Vozone
Local time: 13:53
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Andrew Bramhall: Could be referring to pigeons, though;
53 mins
  -> Yes, also. So what?
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Pernicious problem of the homed


Explanation:
This kind of construction implementation reduced sensibly the current shortage of people's shelters, but it overlooked districtual, urban segregation issues, unprovided with decent livelihood facilities, spacious and standard construction material arising thereafter. Such was called the "pernicious problem of the homed".


Gabriel Ferrero
France
Local time: 14:53
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Andrew Bramhall: Same comment as above;
7 mins

neutral  Jennifer Levey: There are numerous English-language errors in your 'explanation'. Why would we think your proposed translation is any better?
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
The issue of the barely-housed


Explanation:
"barely" is good here, meaning 'hardly/scarcely', and barely' im[lying their accomodation is bare, i.e, devoid of the comforts,appurtenances, and conveniences of decent quality accomodation,

Andrew Bramhall
United Kingdom
Local time: 13:53
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Jennifer Levey: The problema is the urban design and implementation as a whole, not just the poor quality of the houses. // Yes, I did, in the discussion box.
17 hrs
  -> Yep, thanks; but did you take into account the asker's comments below the term?
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
the problem of the poorly housed


Explanation:
Here is an answer with some concrete examples. Furthermore, obviously poor housing is a problem for those who have to live in them. The "los con techo" may have a roof, but the poor level of their housing is still a problem.

A “Capital of Hope and Disappointments” in
Berghahn Journals
https://www.berghahnjournals.com › fpcs › fpcs400103
by DA Harris · 2022 — ... combine the “resources and skills” of local welfare organizations to “draw the attention of government authorities to the problem of the poorly housed.

The Concept of the Child: 1890-1940. - ERIC

Department of Education (.gov)
https://files.eric.ed.gov › fulltext
PDF
by CC DuCharme · 1995 · Cited by 5 — is facing the problem of the poorly-housed, ill-nourished child of the congested city tenement with hygienic conditions that have.
26 pages

EFFECTIVE PROTECTION OF THE RIGHT TO HOUSING ...

Global Campus of Human Rights
https://repository.gchumanrights.org › download
PDF
by J Barriere · 2013 — Another point is the problem of the poorly housed. Article 8 mentions the “respect” of the home, and the Court has developed a jurisprudence ...

Maghrebis in Marseille: North African Immigration and French ...

University of Toronto
https://tspace.library.utoronto.ca › bitstream › Har...
PDF
by DA Harris · Cited by 2 — problem of the poorly housed.”30 To this end, it put together a team of experts in the fields of sociology, ethnography, and geography to conduct studies of ...
297 pages

Populism, Religion, and Nation in Contemporary India

Yumpu
https://www.yumpu.com › document › view › populis...
Apr 18, 2014 — solution of the problem of the poorly housed of Bombay, promoting. the idea of the construction of one million lodgings (to house four.

patinba
Argentina
Local time: 09:53
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 68

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Andy Watkinson: The most succint way of putting it.
1 hr
  -> Thank you, Andy!

neutral  Andrew Bramhall: Poorly housed doesn't convey the same irony as my version, which is equally as succinct as your version, in fact more so as it contains less letters, so strange comment from AW there.@ TC: 'key to undertandING', gerund form '.Disagree with your comment
2 hrs
  -> The irony will be hard to include, but the concept needs to be expressed in plain English. I have never seen "homed" used in this context, for example. "Housed" is the word.

agree  Toni Castano: "Poorly housed" reproduces the intended meaning perfectly well. I shall try to add a link with background information about the work of Ana Sugranyes and Alfredo Rodríguez, which is key to understanding the housing problem in Chile.
10 hrs
  -> Thank you, Toni!

agree  Ana Krämer
14 hrs
  -> Thank you!

agree  Stuart and Aida Nelson: Indeed, poorly built houses
15 hrs
  -> Thank you!

neutral  Jennifer Levey: This is a very narrow interpretation of the concept, which includes, i.a. una periferia urbana segregada, sin equipamientos. The problema is the urban design and implementation as a whole, not just the poor quality of the houses.
16 hrs
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
the ill-housed problem


Explanation:
I think this may be a possible option.

"I see one-third of a nation ill-housed, ill-clad, ill-nourished"
https://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5105/

"The ill-housed; cases and materials on tenants' rights in private and public housing"
https://searchworks.stanford.edu/view/1818301

Or, "the poorly/badly housed".

Adoración Bodoque Martínez
Ireland
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Andrew Bramhall: Sounds unidiomatic to my ears;
2 hrs
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9 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
the 'quickfix' housing problem


Explanation:
To underline the inadequacies of such (so ocial) housing, this might work, especially as no set phrase has been coined in English.

"an expedient, temporary solution, especially one that merely postpones having to cope with an overall problem, and remains inadequate

ormiston
Local time: 14:53
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Jennifer Levey: In Asker's context most 'social housing' schemes were intended to provide long-term solutions to families in want of accommodation. The main exceptions (that might match 'quick fix') are mediaguas built after earthquakes and other disasters.
9 hrs

neutral  Andrew Bramhall: Agree with JL's comments above;
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13 days   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
"the downside of the roofed people"


Explanation:
Un poco de juego de palabras centrado en las polaridades abajo/arriba, con techo/sin techo.

Ana Jimenez H.
Local time: 07:53
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
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