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پشم و پیلی

English translation: powerless/impotent

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Persian (Farsi) term or phrase:پشم و پیلی
English translation:powerless/impotent
Entered by: Sima Sharifi

19:21 Aug 7, 2015
Persian (Farsi) to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Poetry & Literature / Fiction
Persian (Farsi) term or phrase: پشم و پیلی
I am sorry dear the moderator for crossing the red line. I really thought that the phrase formed an idiom but perhaps I'm mistaken. Anyway, the context for this term is this:
اگرچه از جلال و جبروت افتاده بود و پشم پیلی اش ریخته
I translated it as: he lost but all of his glory. So the second part پشم و پیلی اش ریخته is the one I found baffling. Is there an idiom in English matching this one?

Thank you all,
Sima
Sima Sharifi
Canada
Local time: 10:58
powerless/impotent
Explanation:
I would translate the whole phrase like this:
Although he had lost his majesty and greatness and was powerless...
Selected response from:

Edward Plaisance Jr
Local time: 11:58
Grading comment
Thank you dear Edward. Your answer is most helpful for my context; especially that you kindly translated the whole phrase..
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5powerless/impotent
Edward Plaisance Jr
5 -1He/she did not carry any weight
Habib Alimardani
5 -1beard and body hair
Najmeh Bahrami
4was/felt disfavored/humbled/disesteemed
Ali Fazel
4 -1to become docile/tame/passive
Niayesh Omidi


Discussion entries: 2





  

Answers


9 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
to become docile/tame/passive


Explanation:
پشم (کسی) ریختن
To become docile/tame/passive

Recently he has become vary passive
اخیرا پشمهای او خیلی ریخته است

Niayesh Omidi
Local time: 17:58
Native speaker of: Native in Persian (Farsi)Persian (Farsi)
PRO pts in category: 66
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you Niayesh. Your answer is valid but not for the context in my text.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Bashir Baqi: Sima Sharifi translation is the best
3 hrs
  -> ترجمه ایشون ترجمه عبارت اگرچه از جلال و جبروت افتاده بود هست. من این معادل را از فرهنگ آریان پور گرفتم که برای پشم کسی ریختن بکار رفته است .
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9 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -1
He/she did not carry any weight


Explanation:
It is an idiom.

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Note added at 9 hrs (2015-08-08 04:44:17 GMT)
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Or \"nolonger carried any weight\"

Habib Alimardani
Iran
Local time: 19:28
Native speaker of: Native in Persian (Farsi)Persian (Farsi)
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you Habib. This might be useful in certain contexts but it doesn't work for my special case.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Bashir Baqi: پشم و پیل پشم و پیل . [ پ َ م ُ ] (اِ مرکب ، از اتباع ) پشم و جز آن .
3 hrs
  -> I strongly recommend you to read the question more carefully! The issue under discussion is mainly the second part.
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10 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -1
beard and body hair


Explanation:
Hirsutness, hirsutism


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Note added at 10 hrs (2015-08-08 06:02:47 GMT)
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He becomes passive/docile/tame :کسی که پشم و پیلش ریخته میشه

Najmeh Bahrami
Canada
Local time: 08:58
Native speaker of: Native in Persian (Farsi)Persian (Farsi)
PRO pts in category: 12
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you Bahram. Your answer could be used for cases where passivity is the point; but in my story, it's the loss of power that is the issue.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Bashir Baqi: پشم و پیل پشم و پیل . [ پ َ م ُ ] (اِ مرکب ، از اتباع ) پشم و جز آن .
2 hrs
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14 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
پشم و پیلی اش ریخته
was/felt disfavored/humbled/disesteemed


Explanation:


Ali Fazel
Iran
Local time: 19:28
Native speaker of: Native in Persian (Farsi)Persian (Farsi)
PRO pts in category: 52
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you Ali. Your answer is very close to that of Edward. I wish I could choose two "Bests" answers!

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2 days 6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
پشم و پیلی ریخته
powerless/impotent


Explanation:
I would translate the whole phrase like this:
Although he had lost his majesty and greatness and was powerless...


Edward Plaisance Jr
Local time: 11:58
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 554
Grading comment
Thank you dear Edward. Your answer is most helpful for my context; especially that you kindly translated the whole phrase..

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Masoud Kakouli Varnousfaderani: I think that because the Persian phrase is an idiom, it is not a bad idea to replace this idiom with an equivalent idiom in English provided that such an idiom exists in English
3 hrs
  -> I agree...but that is the problem...we don't have such an idiom...I went through every word in thesaurus.com related to this
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