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| Why not remove??? | Nov 29, 2011 |
Yolanda Broad wrote:
Dear Nahit,
What the message you received from ProZ staff means is that the profile that contacted you can no longer contact anyone. That is, the profile is still there, but it is blocked from doing anything, including sending messages. And thank you for reporting that scammer to the Site: it makes all of us safer!
Yolanda B.
Why is the profile of a scammer still there?
I cannot comprehend this.
There were several profiles sending "I love you, want to meet you" type of scam messages, and they were removed promptly. Why not this one that is clearly a scam aiming for direct financial fraud?
By not removing a fradulent profile, the site gives a false sense of legitimacy regarding the scammer. This is wrong.
Katalin
| | | | | Even if it is not a scam... | Nov 29, 2011 |
It IS a scam, but just in case somebody thinks about cashing in the check, keep in mind that there are several possibilities:
- The check bounces because there are no funds in whatever account is provided
- The check is forged, and does not correspond to any legal account
- The check has been stolen
In the first case, you would "just" lose your money, but in the latter case you may face legal actions against you for fraud.
Even in ... See more It IS a scam, but just in case somebody thinks about cashing in the check, keep in mind that there are several possibilities:
- The check bounces because there are no funds in whatever account is provided
- The check is forged, and does not correspond to any legal account
- The check has been stolen
In the first case, you would "just" lose your money, but in the latter case you may face legal actions against you for fraud.
Even in the improbable case that the check is legitimate, has funds and goes against an established account, you could still face legal problems, as you could be accused of money laundering for drug traffic or terrorist organizations.
So be *very* careful with these things! ▲ Collapse
| | | | | Why don't you hang them? | Nov 29, 2011 |
Yolanda Broad wrote:
Dear Nahit,
What the message you received from ProZ staff means is that the profile that contacted you can no longer contact anyone. That is, the profile is still there, but it is blocked from doing anything, including sending messages. And thank you for reporting that scammer to the Site: it makes all of us safer!
Yolanda B.
Dear Yolanda,
No, that's not what I want.
I want you to hang him/her immediately
No, only a joke (btw there is many a true word spoken in jest), we need a new page that shows these scammers (aka, certificate of honor for the scammers) and what proz did for them.
IMHO, it could be easy for you and would be useful for us.
Deepest regards,
Nahit
| | | | | TOM BARKER - new sender of such e-mails | Nov 30, 2011 |
Received today:
"Stanislav,
I have been told by the accountant that payments have been forwarded to your address
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You should receive it any moment from now.
As soon as you receive it, please confirm the receipt by sending me an email / text message confirmation.
There after, follow the instructions that would be emailed to you shortly and proceed with your task.
... See more Received today:
"Stanislav,
I have been told by the accountant that payments have been forwarded to your address
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You should receive it any moment from now.
As soon as you receive it, please confirm the receipt by sending me an email / text message confirmation.
There after, follow the instructions that would be emailed to you shortly and proceed with your task.
Thank You,"
[email protected] ▲ Collapse
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Ines Cunha Jorge wrote: Be aware of [email protected] - this is another overpayment fraud. This person registered in Proz.Com a few days ago. Here is his message: Good Morning, I am an agent working with Secret Shopper® Europe We are currently searching for English speakers in EUROPE to help us with our survey. Currently, we have been paid to evaluate the services of a prestigious company which is the WESTERN UNION. JOB SUMMARY: The WESTERN UNION is a company that offers money transfer services. The sole aim of this job is to evaluate the services of WESTERN UNION in your area. We have received a lot of reports about their poor services. Hence i will give you a detailed job description in key points. 1. You are to locate a western union office you intend to evaluate.( If you need a list of WESTERN UNION in your area please specify.) 2. A cheque would be sent to you to enable you have funds that would be transferred to another mystery shopper like you who would be evaluating another western union office in his / her location 3. You deposit the cheques into your account. 4. You deduct your wage of 200Eur 5. You transfer the balance (after the subtraction of your wage and possible bank charges) to the name and address that would be attached to the cheque. *NOTE* during the transfer process, you observe key things that would be sent to you inform of a questionnaire via email/post to enable you give us a detailed feed back of the whole process. 6. After the transfer, you fill out the questionnaire and give a general comment about the whole process. The reports would be based on how true/false the complains of these worried customers. Materials needed for the evaluation would be posted to you. Hence your duties would be to go to a WESTERN UNION outlet in your locality as a customer. You do not require any experience in this field as detailed guidelines would be given to you to ensure a successful completion. This role would pay 200Eur per Evaluation. Your details would undergo security checks before the position is granted to you. First Name: Last Name: Age: Address: City: Country: Postal Code: Mobile Number: Home Phone: Current occupation: Email Address: We await your urgent response. Thank you for your help, we look forward to working with you. Yours Sincerely, David Baker Secret Shopper® +447965658971
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| | | | | Secret Shoppers | Dec 1, 2011 |
They seem to invent new names for their "agents" each time... I was contacted by "Tom Barker". Proceedings were the same as already explained here.
Katalin Horvath McClure wrote: Yolanda Broad wrote:
Dear Nahit,
What the message you received from ProZ staff means is that the profile that contacted you can no longer contact anyone. That is, the profile is still there, but it is blocked from doing anything, including sending messages. And thank you for reporting that scammer to the Site: it makes all of us safer!
Yolanda B. Why is the profile of a scammer still there? I cannot comprehend this. There were several profiles sending "I love you, want to meet you" type of scam messages, and they were removed promptly. Why not this one that is clearly a scam aiming for direct financial fraud? By not removing a fradulent profile, the site gives a false sense of legitimacy regarding the scammer. This is wrong. Katalin
| | | | Erik Matson 
Thailand
Local time: 22:34
English to Norwegian
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| Time to close this? | Dec 1, 2011 |
Alejandro Cavalitto wrote: Hello, Thanks everyone for using the forum to raise awareness about scams. I see that ProZ.com profiles are involved in this particular scam. Site staff has blocked each profile that was reported on this thread and a few more reported privately. I must ask you to report profiles used for fraudulent purposes through the support system. Staff will look into what you report and take appropriate action. If profiles and site users are reported in the forum directly, we run the risk of publicly accusing a colleague who may not be part of this scam. Thanks for your understanding. Best regards, Alejandro
I definitely think Alejandro is onto something here - this could get ugly! It's pretty obvious that not everybody reads every single post in a forum before leaving a post of their own, and at this point people have gotten the idea - no need to keep this going just so more people can copy and paste the scam again, and perhaps inadvertently drop the name of a totally innocent linguist - this could be very damaging their reputation and credibility as a vendor here at Proz and beyond!
Rather than hope that people will read/follow Alejandro's request wouldn't this would be a good time to close the forum to further posting? Of course, that's just my opinion, and I trust Proz site staff to decide on an effective strategy for continuing to raising awareness, without the risk of spreading false information/rumors.
| | | | ktirk
Finland
Local time: 18:34
English to Finnish
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I didn't immediately see it was a scam because they first approached me with an innocent-looking message inquiring if I'm available for translation work. I asked what it was about, and instead of a reply received the scam letter that we have all seen. Obviously I then recognised it as a scam and moved it to trash.
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Oksana Weiss
Germany
Local time: 17:34
Member (2011)
German to English
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| Barker indeed | Dec 2, 2011 |
Veronika Schmoll wrote:
They seem to invent new names for their "agents" each time... I was contacted by "Tom Barker".
The name speaks for itself. Curious that they should keep it...
| | | | 3ADE shadab
Local time: 21:04
Member (2008)
Hindi to English
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| Put a STOP to the Scams | Dec 2, 2011 |
Seriously this is just dangerous. People who are not at all aware of these sort of scams will surely fall into the trap of this kind. I don’t know how I can help the innocent unaware people but I wish I really could have helped them. Can any body suggest how these scams can be prevented?
| | | | Darko Kolega
Croatia
Local time: 17:34
Member (2009)
German to Croatian
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I'll like to see one scummer hanging
if we get one, this will be minimum deserved
Darko
| | | | | They continue using a new name | Dec 5, 2011 |
I received the same email from "Howard T..." whose profile doesn't exist (yet or anymore) in ProZ.
Same british phone number : +447965658971, but I received the first email on Sunday at 4:45 AM and the second one at 11:38 PM. This also made me suspicious.
Virginie
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laure claesen
France
Local time: 17:34
Member (2005)
English to French
| Yes, that's Howard today | Dec 5, 2011 |
Me too, I got the "Howard Twine" one.
I wrote back saying that I was reporting him to the FBI.
They must be laughing about me but I want them to know that we are aware of their doings.
| | | | Lydia De Jorge
United States
Local time: 10:34
English to Spanish
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| Carolingua
United States
Local time: 08:34
Spanish to English
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| I received an email from Rita Xavier from Secret Shopper (TM) | Dec 9, 2011 |
I also received an email through ProZ from Rita Xavier from "Secret Shopper"tm
I had no idea this was a scam, it was a very brief message asking if I was available for help on a survey. So then I replied, and got a longer message asking me for personal details. I still didn't know about the scam...I'm glad I looked it up.
The problem is, there *are* legitimate secret shopping agencies. How can you tell the real from the fake? Am I no longer supposed to trust any ema... See more I also received an email through ProZ from Rita Xavier from "Secret Shopper"tm
I had no idea this was a scam, it was a very brief message asking if I was available for help on a survey. So then I replied, and got a longer message asking me for personal details. I still didn't know about the scam...I'm glad I looked it up.
The problem is, there *are* legitimate secret shopping agencies. How can you tell the real from the fake? Am I no longer supposed to trust any emails that come through ProZ??? ▲ Collapse
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