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Auteur du fil: Bill Lao

Xiaoping Fu  Identity Verified
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wink Aug 27, 2005

weiwei wrote:

jyuan_us wrote:

Why do you wink all the time? Hoho.


I wanted to tell Yueyin he got a good one there, but I didn't dare to step into the discussion (too HOT for me). I wink a lot actually. Life could use a little cheekiness....


I like the way you wink, especially this time. **wink**

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鍙瑧锛 Aug 27, 2005

Bill Lao wrote:
杩欎袱澶╂垜涓鐩村噯澶囩潃鍚憇un鍏堢敓鐪熻瘹鐨勯亾姝夛紝鍙浠栭鍏堟敹鍥炰粬楠備汉鐨勮瘽銆傚湪璁哄潧涓婃垜涓巗un鐨勪氦娴佽緝澶氾紝浠庝腑寰楀埌浜嗕笉灏戜箰瓒e拰鏁欑泭锛宻un鏄垜杈冨皧鏁殑闀胯呬箣涓銆

鍚sun really upset for what I said锛岀敱鏄紝鎴戜篃涓鸿嚜宸辩殑閬撴瓑娌℃湁鏈轰細鍙戝嚭锛岃宺eally upset璧锋潵浜嗐


 

Kevin Yang  Identity Verified
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Thank you for the finding! Aug 27, 2005

Last Hermit wrote:

I experience the same thing, and have to disconnect before I can log in Proz again. Mobile visiting seems to be always possible,though.

The Forum might have some sort of Achilles' heel - some characters such as Slash(/) in the Title line may paralyse the Forum page. That happened to another Forum before. You may want to think along these lines.

Hope this helps.

LH

Kevin,

Sorry but I remember now. It is not the slash but this divide "|". Try to remove this and see what you'll find.




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Hi, Last Hermit

Thank you for the finding! I will forward your discovery to the tech support staff. I hope it will lead to certain improvement.

Kevin


 

Wenjer Leuschel (X)  Identity Verified
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Fell in love in a wink of an eye... Aug 27, 2005

Seeing people winking around, it reminds me of the song, "Butterfly". It goes like this:

Fell in love in a wink of an eye
With a girl who's called Butterfly
she said she loves me so
she could not let me go
but still I had to say goodbye

*Butterfly, my butterfly
I'll come home to you one day
Butterfly, my butterfly
Wait for me don't fly away*

Never fly in the heat of the sun
fold your wings when the long day is
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Seeing people winking around, it reminds me of the song, "Butterfly". It goes like this:

Fell in love in a wink of an eye
With a girl who's called Butterfly
she said she loves me so
she could not let me go
but still I had to say goodbye

*Butterfly, my butterfly
I'll come home to you one day
Butterfly, my butterfly
Wait for me don't fly away*

Never fly in the heat of the sun
fold your wings when the long day is done
Stay at home and wait for me
Till I get back again
counting the winters one by one

Repeat *

to those nice people in the forum.
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Kevin Yang  Identity Verified
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璁╂湰璁哄潧鎴愪负澶у鍠滄鎺㈣瀛︽湳闂鍜岃仈绯绘劅鎯呯殑鍥湴 Aug 27, 2005

Bill Lao, 鑰佸瓩锛屾枃鍝诧紝鍙婂湪搴у悇浣嶏紝

澶у杈涜嫤浜嗭紒鎴戞渶杩戝繖鐫鎺ュ緟浠庡ぇ闄嗘潵鎴戣繖閲屾帰浜茬殑浜叉垰锛屼竴杩炰袱涓ぜ鎷滈兘鏈兘璁ょ湡浠旈槄璇绘瘡涓笘瀛愶紝杩橀敊璇湴鏀捐浜嗕竴浜涙湁闂鐨勫笘瀛愶紝瀵艰嚧澶у鐨勮璁哄崌绾с傝繖鏄垜鐨勫伐浣滅枏澶憋紝鎴戝悜澶у閬撴瓑锛

涓轰簡鍐欒繖涓笘瀛愶紝鎴戝垰鎵嶅張鎶婃鏂囦欢澶逛腑鐨勫笘瀛愰噸鏂版嫓璇讳簡涓閬嶃備笅闈㈡槸鎴戠殑鐪嬫硶锛屼緵澶у鍙傝冿細

1锛嶣ill Lao鍥犱负鑷
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Bill Lao, 鑰佸瓩锛屾枃鍝诧紝鍙婂湪搴у悇浣嶏紝

澶у杈涜嫤浜嗭紒鎴戞渶杩戝繖鐫鎺ュ緟浠庡ぇ闄嗘潵鎴戣繖閲屾帰浜茬殑浜叉垰锛屼竴杩炰袱涓ぜ鎷滈兘鏈兘璁ょ湡浠旈槄璇绘瘡涓笘瀛愶紝杩橀敊璇湴鏀捐浜嗕竴浜涙湁闂鐨勫笘瀛愶紝瀵艰嚧澶у鐨勮璁哄崌绾с傝繖鏄垜鐨勫伐浣滅枏澶憋紝鎴戝悜澶у閬撴瓑锛

涓轰簡鍐欒繖涓笘瀛愶紝鎴戝垰鎵嶅張鎶婃鏂囦欢澶逛腑鐨勫笘瀛愰噸鏂版嫓璇讳簡涓閬嶃備笅闈㈡槸鎴戠殑鐪嬫硶锛屼緵澶у鍙傝冿細

1锛嶣ill Lao鍥犱负鑷繁閬囧埌鐢佃剳娴忚闂锛屽嚟鍊熻嚜宸变互鍓嶅湪鍏朵粬缃戠珯鍙楀埌鈥滆搫鎰忓洿鏀诲拰缇ゆ鈥濈殑缁忓巻锛屽湪娌℃湁纭垏璇佹嵁鐨勬儏鍐典笅锛屽眳鐒跺叕寮鐚滅枒鏄湰璁哄潧鐨勬煇浜烘晠鎰忓皢鐥呮瘨浼犺嚦鍏剁數鑴戜箣涓紝鎴栬呮槸鈥滄煇鑲℃斂娌诲娍鍔涚殑鎿嶇旱鈥濓紝瀹炲睘鑽掑攼锛岃娲诲姝や笉璐熻矗浠伙紝璁╂垜鎰熷埌闇囨儕銆傚姝わ紝Bill Lao搴旇鍚戝綋浜嬩汉鍜屾垜浠ぇ瀹堕亾姝夈
2锛庤█璁鸿嚜鐢辨槸鎴戜滑濮嬬粓鍊″鐨勭悊蹇点備絾鏄█璁鸿嚜鐢变笉鏄粷瀵圭殑銆傚綋瑷璁轰激瀹虫垨渚电姱浠栦汉鐨勬潈鍒┿佸皧涓ワ紝鍚嶈獕锛岄殣绉佺瓑鏃讹紝灏卞繀椤诲彈鍒伴檺鍒跺拰绾︽潫銆傛垜浠ぇ瀹跺彂瑷鏃讹紝涓瀹氳鏈潃瀵硅嚜宸辫礋璐o紝瀵逛粬浜鸿礋璐g殑鍘熷垯锛屾牴鎹簨瀹炶璇濄傚垏鍕夸俊鍙e紑娌筹紝鍙浘涓鏃剁棝蹇紝閫犳垚澶辫韩浠斤紝澶辨按鍑嗭紝浼ゅ浠栦汉鐨勫悗鏋溿傛垜鍒氬湪鐗规剰鏌ヤ簡涓涓嬬數鑴戠殑缁熻锛孊ill Lao宸茬粡鍦ㄦ湰缃戠珯鍙戣〃浜188绡囧笘瀛愩傝繖璇存槑鈥滄墦鍘嬧濇槸鏍规湰涓嶅瓨鍦ㄧ殑銆傚悓鏃讹紝涔熻Bill Lao鍦ㄦ湰璁哄潧鎴掗櫎浣跨敤鑷悕鏄憲鐨勬枃闈╄█璁恒傛椂浠e彉浜嗭紝鎬濇兂涔熻璺熺潃杩涙銆
3锛庢枃鍝茶浜嗕竴鍙ュ彂浜烘繁鎬濈殑璇濓細鈥滃笇鏈涗綘濂藉ソ鎯充竴鎯筹紝浣犲埌 ProZ.com 閫欏嬬ぞ缇や締鐨勭洰鐨勶紝鎯充竴鎯虫槸鍚﹂仈鍒颁簡鐩殑锛屾垨鎳夎┎濡備綍閬斿埌鐩殑銆傗 鎴戣涓哄緢鏈夊繀瑕佸厛鎼炴竻妤氭潵杩欎釜缃戠珯鐨勭洰鐨勩傛垜鐨勭悊瑙f槸锛屾垜浠槸涓缇ゆ潵鑷ぉ娑捣瑙掔殑蹇楀悓閬撳悎鐨勭炕璇戝伐浣滆咃紝浠ユ湰缃戠珯涓哄钩鍙帮紝鍒囩缈昏瘧鎶宸э紝鎻愰珮缈昏瘧姘村钩锛屽箍浜ゆ湅鍙嬶紝寤虹珛鍚堜綔缃戠粶锛屽鎵炬洿澶氱殑缈昏瘧宸ヤ綔銆傚鏋滄病鏈夊仛鍒颁互涓婂悇椤圭殑璇濓紝閭e氨瑕佸ソ濂藉姫鍔涗簡銆傚鏋滄病鏈変氦鍒颁竴涓湅鍙嬶紝涔熷緱涓嶅埌涓涓炕璇戞椿鍎匡紝灏辫澶氫粠鑷繁韬笂鎵惧師鍥狅紝鎵嶆槸鏈鏄庢櫤鐨勯夋嫨銆
4锛庤璇镐綅浠庡ぇ灞鍑哄彂锛岀户缁敮鎸佹垜鐨勫伐浣滐紝鍗忓姪钀ラ犱竴涓拰璋愮殑姘涘洿锛岃鏈鍧涙垚涓哄ぇ瀹跺枩娆㈡帰璁ㄥ鏈棶棰樺拰鑱旂郴鎰熸儏鐨勫洯鍦般備笉瑕佽绮椾織锛屾伓鍔e拰鏃犵悊褰撻亾銆傛垜涔熶細鏇村姞涓ユ牸瀹℃煡甯栧瓙锛屼笉浼氭斁琛岄獋甯栥

琛峰績鎰熻阿澶у鐨勪綋璋呭拰鏀寔锛

Kevin

[Edited at 2005-08-28 06:52]
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ysun  Identity Verified
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鍚屾剰 Kevin 鐨勬剰瑙 Aug 27, 2005

Kevin 鍙戣〃浜嗗緢涓偗鐨勬剰瑙併備笉杩囷紝鍑虹幇涓浜涙湁闂鐨勫笘瀛愶紝鏍规湰涓嶆槸浠栫殑宸ヤ綔鐤忓け锛屾洿涓嶇敤浠栧悜澶у閬撴瓑銆傞櫎姝や箣澶栵紝鎴戝畬鍏ㄥ悓鎰 Kevin 鐨勬剰瑙併傚厜闈 Kevin 鎶婂叧锛屼粬鏄粷瀵归【涓嶈繃鏉ョ殑銆備粬骞堕潪鏄笓鑱岀殑 Moderator锛岃屾槸涓浣 volunteer銆備粬杩樻湁鑷繁鐨勪簨涓氥佸伐浣滃拰璁稿浜嬫儏闇瑕佹枡鐞嗐傚叧閿湪浜庢垜浠瘡涓弬涓嶱roz.com娲诲姩鐨勪汉閮借鑷鍦颁弗鏍奸伒瀹堣繖閲岀殑瑙勫畾銆

浠ュ墠鎴戝線寰濂夎鈥滀汉涓嶇姱鎴戯紝鎴戜笉鐘汉锛涗汉鑻ョ姱鎴戯紝鎴戝繀鐘汉鈥濈殑淇℃潯锛屽湪鍙楀埌鎸戣鎴栨敾鍑荤殑鎯呭喌涓嬶紝涔熶娇鐢ㄨ繃涓浜涙瘮杈冨皷閿愮殑瑷璇嶏紝浣嗘垜浠庢湭浣跨敤杩囪癌楠傜殑璇█銆傜幇鍦ㄦ垜鎰忚瘑鍒颁笉搴斿皢杩欎竴淇℃潯鐢ㄥ湪姝ゅ锛屽洜涓哄畠涓嶅埄浜庤惀閫犲拰缁存姢涓绉嶅拰璋愮殑姘旀皼銆備粖鍚庯紝鎴戝皢鏇翠弗鏍煎湴绾︽潫鑷繁鐨勮█琛岋紝瀵逛簬鏌愪簺闈炲織鍚岄亾鍚堢殑浜猴紝璋堝緱鏉ュ垯璋堬紝濡傛灉璋堜笉鏉ュ垯鏁o紝鍚勮嚜鍒嗛亾鎵暢锛屼互閬垮厤鍐茬獊銆

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Wenjer Leuschel (X)  Identity Verified
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Appology Aug 28, 2005

Kevin,

I tried to encourage other colleagues to put up with Bill, because I do see some merits in his participation. However, Bill's problem lies deep in his pride. He doesn't see much bright side of a conversation and doesn't cherish different opinions which, indeed, facilitate mutual understanding in the community quite a bit.

No one can live without a community and living in a community means compromising in some way. We do need other people, not only colleagues in o
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Kevin,

I tried to encourage other colleagues to put up with Bill, because I do see some merits in his participation. However, Bill's problem lies deep in his pride. He doesn't see much bright side of a conversation and doesn't cherish different opinions which, indeed, facilitate mutual understanding in the community quite a bit.

No one can live without a community and living in a community means compromising in some way. We do need other people, not only colleagues in our walk. If we always looked at the dark side of things, we would never be able to communicate our ideas. Every one of us do have an ego, but that ego must be able to put up with other ones. Or else, people will lose their patience and just leave such an ego alone. This is what happens to Bill. He is ego-centric, disregarding other people's feelings. He has a contra to everything which is not always justified.

I believe none of us has ever had the intension to offend him. Almost everyone of us tried to be nice to him. The problem is that he cannot appreciate it. So, why bother? What do we gain from converting him? If he continues to offend people, I don't mind at all. Just ignore him. He cannot hurt me, anyway.

The only way to have an enjoyable community is to have each one contributing with good intentions. Loud and aggressive people are vexatious to the spirit, indeed. They are to be avoided.

If my words concerning this matter should be too harsh, please forgive me. But I have to say what's on my mind.

Wenjer

[Edited at 2005-08-28 22:00]
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Kevin Yang  Identity Verified
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Speaking of fact... Aug 28, 2005

Bill Lao wrote:

Kevin,璇磋瘽瑕佹湁鏍规嵁锛侊紒

Bill Lao wrote:
......
Bill Lao wrote:
......浠庡叾浠栫綉鍙嬫柊杩戝杩欎釜甯栧瓙鐨勫洖甯栨潵鐪嬶紝澶у閮借兘姝e父娴忚鍜屽洖甯栵紝浣嗗敮鐙垜涓嶈銆傚洜姝わ紝鎴戠寽鎯筹紝杩欎釜鍙兘鐥呮瘨鏄崟鐙拡瀵规垜鏈汉鐨勶紒

......

涓轰粈涔堟垜鑳芥甯告祻瑙堟湰璁哄潧涓婄殑浠讳綍鍏跺畠甯栧瓙锛屽敮鐙杩欎釜甯栧瓙涓嶈锛涗负浠涔堝叾瀹冪綉鍙嬭兘姝e父鍥炲笘锛屽敮鐙垜涓嶈锛屾垜涓鐩寸櫨鎬濅笉瑙c備笉杩囷紝灏界杩欎釜鐥呮瘨鏈夌偣浠ゆ垜涓嶅揩锛屼絾涓鎯冲埌鏈夊彲鑳芥槸鏌愪竴浣嶈佽祫鏍肩綉鍙嬪洜涓烘媴蹇冩垜鍙戣█鑰屼娇鍑鸿繖涓鎷涙暟锛屾垜灏辩涓嶄綇鑾炲皵銆傛垜涔熶笉鎺掗櫎鏄煇绉嶆斂娌诲娍鍔涙墍涓虹殑鍙兘銆傛垜杩囧幓灏辩鍒拌繃杩欑鐜拌薄锛屼絾閭f槸鍦ㄥ浗鍐呮煇涓椂鏀胯鍧涳紝鎴戦伃閬囧埌鐨勪篃涓嶆槸鐥呮瘨鏀诲嚮锛岃屾槸涓甯帿鍚嶇綉姘戝鎴戣繘琛岀殑钃勬剰鍥存敾鍜岀兢娈淬傛垜鐨勮鐐逛笌閭d簺浜虹殑鍒╃泭鐩镐簰杩濊儗銆傜洰鍓嶆垜涓嶆暍璇磋繖绉嶆斂娌诲娍鍔涙槸涓绉嶉粦鎭跺娍鍔涳紝浣嗕笉璁╀汉璇磋瘽銆佸鎬曚汉瀹惰璇濓紝浠庤繖鐐逛笂鏉ヨ锛岃繖绉嶆斂娌诲娍鍔涜嚦灏戞槸鍙嶈嚜鐢便佸弽姘戜富銆佸弽杩涙銆佸弽浜烘皯銆佸弽浜烘潈鐨勶紝鏄弽鍔ㄧ殑銆

鍊熺敤涓鍙ュ墠鏁呬富甯瘺鍏堢敓鐨勮瘽锛岃浜鸿璇濆ぉ涓嶄細濉屼笅鏉ュ槢锛


Bill Lao,

Can you tell me which part of my above message is not based on fact? If you understood the importance of fact, this discussion would not be started at the first place. Please be sure to review your very first post in this folder and respond to me with well-grounded facts. Your problem is you do not remember what you said.

Kevin

[Edited at 2005-08-30 01:03]


 

ysun  Identity Verified
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鍑犵偣瑙i噴 Aug 29, 2005

Bill Lao wrote:

鐩稿弽锛岄獋鍒汉鈥滀綘骞舵病鏈夆樻甯搁昏緫鎬濈淮鑳藉姏鍜屽熀鏈數鑴戠煡璇嗏欌濓紝鈥滀綘鑷繁绁炵粡杩囨晱锛屽氨鍍忓爞鍚夋煰寰锋妸椋庤溅瑙嗕负鏁屼汉涓鏍封濓紝鈥滃績鐥呴毦娌烩濓紝鈥滀綘鐨勫績鐥呰秺鏉ヨ秺閲嶁濓紝鈥滄墽杩蜂笉鎮熲濓紝鈥滀綘杩欎箞涓浣嶆棤瓒宠交閲嶇殑浜衡濓紝绛夌瓑锛屼互鍙婇獋浜衡滅劇鍙晳钘モ濓紝鎸囨А楠傛鍦拌浜衡滈偅绋笉寰楀ぉ鍔╀汉鍔╄咃紝瀵﹀湪鐘笉钁楁氮璨荤簿鍔涘幓绯炬浠栧戠殑琛岀偤鍋忓樊鈥濓紝绛夌瓑锛岄偅鎵嶇湡姝f槸杩濆弽鈥滆█璁鸿嚜鐢扁濓紝鈥滀镜鐘粬浜虹殑鏉冨埄銆佸皧涓ワ紝鍚嶈獕锛岄殣绉佲濓紒骞朵娇鐢ㄤ簡鈥滆嚟鍚嶆槶钁楃殑鏂囬潻瑷璁衡濓紒浣嗕笉鐭ラ亾涓轰粈涔坘evin鍚涘姝や竴瑷涓嶅彂锛屽亸鍋忚鐢熼犲嚭涓滆タ鏉ュぇ鍔犻灜鎸炪


Bill,

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  • 浣犲枩娆娇鐢ㄢ滆嚜鐢扁濓紝鈥滄皯涓烩濊繖绫荤編涓借瘝钘诲拰鏂囬潻璇眹锛岀粰浜轰笂绾蹭笂绾匡紝涓鸿嚜宸变笉璐熻矗浠昏█璁哄紑閬擄紝涓鸿嚜宸变激瀹充粬浜鸿█杈炲紑鑴便傛牴鎹垜鐨勮瀵燂紝鏈鍧涘凡鏈夊浜哄彈鍒颁綘鐨勬伓瑷浼ゅ锛屼汉瀹跺浣犲仛鍑哄洖搴旓紝璇翠簡閲嶈瘽锛屼綘绔嬪埢浠ュ彈瀹宠呰嚜灞咃紝鐒惰屽嵈娌℃湁寰楀埌浠讳綍浜虹殑鍚屾儏銆

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    Yueyin, Kevin 浠ュ強鍦ㄥ骇璜稿悰锛

    ProZ 璜栧鐨勭敤鎰忎綍鍦紝Kevin 宸茬稉瑾槑寰楀緢娓呮浜嗭紝澶у瀵﹀湪娌掓湁蹇呰鍐嶆氮璨绘檪闁擄紝绁濈 Bill 榇诲湒澶у睍灏辫浜嗭紒

    Wenjer
    P.S. 璜 Yueyin 鎶婃垜澶氭棩鍓嶅鐨勬湁闂滄浜嬬殑淇′篃杞夌郸 Kevin 鍙冭冨ソ鍡庯紵淇¤!鐨勫垎鏋愬皪浠栧彲鑳芥湁骞姪锛屽铏т粬鐨勮愬績浜嗐

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    鏈夎颈鏂枃 Aug 29, 2005

    Kevin Yang wrote:

    Bill,

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    灏卞湪杩欑瘒浣犵幇鍦ㄤ慨鏀硅繃鐨勫笘瀛愰噷锛屽張鑲嗘棤蹇屾儺鍦扮偣鍚嶆枃鍝诧紝骞跺浠栬繘琛屾伓姣掔殑浜鸿韩鏀诲嚮銆傛垜瑕佹眰浣犵珛鍒诲皢閭f伓瑷鍒犻櫎锛屽惁鍒欐垜灏卞彧濂藉垹闄や綘鐨勬暣涓笘瀛愩


    Bill,

    浣犱娇鐢ㄩ偅绉嶆伓姣掔殑璇█鍐嶆鏀诲嚮鏂囧摬锛岀‘瀹炴湁杈辨柉鏂囥傛垜甯屾湜浣犲悜鏂囧摬閬撴瓑锛屽苟鎸夌収 Kevin 璇寸殑鍘诲仛锛屸滅珛鍒诲皢閭f伓瑷鍒犻櫎鈥濄備粬骞堕潪鏄互鐢ㄨ亴鏉冦傛垜鎽樺綍 Proz.com 鐨 FAQ 鏈夊叧閮ㄥ垎濡備笅锛屼緵浣犲弬鑰冿細

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