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Praticien attaché / Praticien attaché associé

anglais translation: associate practitioner

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03:48 May 14, 2007
traduction français vers anglais [PRO]
Medical - Médecine (général)
Terme ou expression en français : Praticien attaché / Praticien attaché associé
in a "contrat de recrutement de praticien attaché associé"

Dr. XXX, *praticien attaché associé* assurera 10 demi-journées par semaine....

...décret relatif aux *praticiens attachés* et *praticiens attachés associés*....

thanks!
RachelV
Local time: 19:00
Traduction en anglais :associate practitioner
Explication :
Associate Practitioner. What will my role as an Associate Practitioner be? You will deliver care to patients under the direct supervision of a registered ...
www.anglia.ac.uk/ruskin/en/home/faculties/ihsc/news_events/... - 15k - Cached - Similar pages

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and " assistant/deputy associate practitioner"
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David Hollywood
Local time: 20:00
Grading comment
As David says, it is hard to find an exact equivalent. This is for an international audience so I had to go with something general. Many thanks to all of you.
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Résumé des réponses proposées
3 +2assistant associate practioner
Robert Frankling
4[assistant] Junior Hospital Doctorliz askew
3 +1associate practitioner
David Hollywood


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22 minutes   confiance : Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 approbation des pairs (net) : +2
assistant associate practioner


Explication :
This seems a term in French medical law. The "practioner" in the following French reference is an MD. The English literal translation would be as above. I haven't found this whole term, but offer it as a suggestion.

assistant practitioner\Associate practioner v3.doc. Will be responsible for supervising up to 15 WTE MLA and ...
www.jobs.nhs.uk/cgi-bin/doc_viewer.cgi?type=hrd&vac_ref=911...
Article 1
Les praticiens attachés et praticiens attachés associés exercent des fonctions hospitalières et participent aux missions du service public hospitalier, telles qu'elles sont définies à l'article L. 6112-1 du code de la santé publique.
Placés sous l'autorité du responsable de la structure médicale, odontologique ou pharmaceutique, mentionnée au chapitre VI du titre IV du livre Ier de la sixième partie du code de la santé publique, dans laquelle ils sont affectés, ils sont chargés de le seconder.
Article 2
Peuvent être recrutés comme praticiens attachés les médecins, chirurgiens-dentistes et pharmaciens qui remplissent les conditions légales d'exercice de leur profession.
http://www.psychiatrie.com.fr/articles/art800.html

Assistant Practioner. Past: Assistant Practioner at NHS. Education: The Open University Medical Imaging Practice, DHe, Anglia Ruskin University ...
www.linkedin.com/find/in/r/r198.html

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Note added at 24 mins (2007-05-14 04:13:12 GMT)
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Apologies to David. His entry hadn't come through when I submitted.

Robert Frankling
Local time: 18:00
Langue maternelle : anglais
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Commentaires des pairs sur cette réponse (et réponses des répondeurs)
Accord  Vicky Papaprodromou
2 heures

Accord  Drmanu49
4 heures

Neutre  liz askew: I think this is a "faux-ami" in French.//In that case "associate practitioner" is equally questionable. You have to look at your TARGET country audience, and understand the legal French term too to get the correct English!
7 heures
  -> I take your point. However, we have a case of bi-juralism. The French legal term may not have a literal equivalent outside France.
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14 minutes   confiance : Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 approbation des pairs (net) : +1
associate practitioner


Explication :
Associate Practitioner. What will my role as an Associate Practitioner be? You will deliver care to patients under the direct supervision of a registered ...
www.anglia.ac.uk/ruskin/en/home/faculties/ihsc/news_events/... - 15k - Cached - Similar pages

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Note added at 24 mins (2007-05-14 04:13:18 GMT)
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and " assistant/deputy associate practitioner"

David Hollywood
Local time: 20:00
Langue maternelle : anglais
Points PRO dans la catégorie : 18
Grading comment
As David says, it is hard to find an exact equivalent. This is for an international audience so I had to go with something general. Many thanks to all of you.

Commentaires des pairs sur cette réponse (et réponses des répondeurs)
Accord  Vicky Papaprodromou
2 heures
  -> thanks Vicky and I agree that it is not easy to find a direct equivalent in this case
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3 heures   confiance : Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
[assistant] Junior Hospital Doctor


Explication :
http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:ggmjzAHYQyEJ:www.c-mh.org...


Praticiens à diplômes étrangers hors Union européenne
La France accueille des praticiens à diplômes hors UE selon deux voies principales.
• Jusqu’en 1999, les médecins à diplômes hors UE pouvaient être recrutés par les hôpitaux, de
façon dérogatoire, même s’ils n’avaient pas une autorisation de plein exercice en France sous le
statut de praticien "associé" (attaché ou assistant). Ils ne sont autorisés à exercer que sous la
responsabilité directe d’un praticien de plein exercice et uniquement dans les établissements
publics de santé. Plusieurs procédures ont cependant permis de délivrer prés de 10 000
autorisations de plein exercice en France à des médecins dont la formation initiale s'est déroulée
à l'étranger.


http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:hM7xK-sK_-gJ:www.rcoa.ac....

http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:C4d1BOL7JZoJ:www.learndir...

[PDF]
Roles and responsibilities of doctors in the provision of ...
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A grade of junior hospital doctor, working under the supervision of a consultant. These doctors. have clear training needs and their work must be compatible ...
www.nta.nhs.uk/publications/documents/nta_doctors_roles_and... - Similar pages




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Note added at 8 hrs (2007-05-14 11:53:06 GMT)
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NOTE:

I think you should think very carefully before translating your query as "associate practitioner".

You need to be clear of what the defintion is in French, first.

I believe that "practicien" = [hospital] consultant, based on my above reference, and based on many others I could send you.

"Associate Practitioner" in the UK NHS is something else to that defined in the French reference I have supplied

See these UK refs:

http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:EOwdyv2AFpsJ:www.nhspro...
Look under defintion of Nurse Associate Practitioner


http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:qaLGhVtgrgIJ:www.pathol...


When the bottleneck occurs due to lack of
expert skill make sure that pathology staff are only doing the work for which this expertise is
needed.
• Separate the responsibilities for specimen flow and paper flow.
• Maximise skills and potential of staff. Avoid spending time undertaking unnecessary
administrative tasks or looking for equipment or results that should be readily available. (See
challenge 3)
• Develop methods to reduce unnecessary or duplicate testing.
• Can somebody else free up the time of an individual who is currently overloaded. Can new roles
be developed e.g. Associate Practitioner, Advanced Practitioner?
• Pool requests or reporting where possible. This will result in
• Even distribution of work.
• Everyone working to their highest level of skill or expertis

http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:tRbq8K_5XOUJ:www.anglia...


Associate Practitioner
What will my role as an Associate Practitioner be?
 You will deliver care to patients under the direct supervision of a registered practitioner, such as a qualified nurse in community or acute care.
 You will develop the level of knowledge and skill beyond that of the traditional healthcare support worker.
 This new role will involve working at a higher level than existing healthcare support workers and will ultimately involve taking some tasks from registered nurses.
Why does the NHS need Associate Practitioners?
 The NHS requires innovative and creative approaches to the supply of staff at all levels
 A key component of the challenges of supply of staff is the introduction of this new worker
 The Associate Practitioner role will deliver high quality care to patients and provide opportunities for existing and new staff to develop an interesting and varied role.

In my mind a "practicien associé/attaché" is more highly qualified in France than in the UK and would work under the supervision of a consultant, i.e. "Junior Doctor".

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Also NOTE

a general practitioner in the last reference = a GP/family doctor - In French this = médecin de famille/médecin généraliste and NOT "practicien"!

liz askew
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